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Why are there 40 737 Max planes in flight when they have been grounded as not airworthy?
Why Boeing 737 main landing gear wells have no doors?Why are there vortex generators under the Boeing 737's cockpit windows?Why are 737 fuselages built in Kansas?Why are there some airports not charted as service-available when FBO provides fuel?Why did this 737 not take off on first attempt?Where are the grounded 737 Max planes being kept?Why is Boeing being blamed for the recent 737 Max crashes?Why is Germany not able to read data from the Boeing 737 MAX black boxes?Why are there only two 'angle of attack sensors' in the 737 Max series?Is there less vertical space for an engine under the wing of a 737 Max than for an A320neo?
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Many countries have already grounded 737 Max planes and as of Mar 13, 2019 the FAA have stated:
The FAA is ordering the temporary grounding of Boeing 737 MAX aircraft (PDF) operated by U.S. airlines or in U.S. territory. The agency made this decision as a result of the data gathering process and new evidence collected at the site and analyzed today. This evidence, together with newly refined satellite data available to FAA this morning, led to this decision.
Source FAA Statement on Boeing 737 Max
So why are there currently 40 737 Max planes in flight according to FlightAware?
Who would be liable should one of these flights crash on takeoff, potentially over a densely populated urban environment?
faa-regulations boeing-737
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Many countries have already grounded 737 Max planes and as of Mar 13, 2019 the FAA have stated:
The FAA is ordering the temporary grounding of Boeing 737 MAX aircraft (PDF) operated by U.S. airlines or in U.S. territory. The agency made this decision as a result of the data gathering process and new evidence collected at the site and analyzed today. This evidence, together with newly refined satellite data available to FAA this morning, led to this decision.
Source FAA Statement on Boeing 737 Max
So why are there currently 40 737 Max planes in flight according to FlightAware?
Who would be liable should one of these flights crash on takeoff, potentially over a densely populated urban environment?
faa-regulations boeing-737
asked 2 hours ago
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The flightaware data is wrong.
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– Ben
1 hour ago
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@Ben Really? What is wrong with it?
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– DavidPostill
1 hour ago
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@Ben uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TOM733 shows Aircraft information Aircraft Type Boeing 737 MAX 8 (twin-jet)
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– DavidPostill
1 hour ago
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I don't know enough about how it gets the data but flightradar 24 gets data directly from the aircraft ADSB transmitter and it shows none of them flying at the moment. I corroborated this when flightaware displayed a Max in Australian airspace yesterday when the aircraft has been subbed to a normal 737-800.
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– Ben
1 hour ago
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TOM733 is currently operated by G-FDZY which is not a Max
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– Ben
1 hour ago
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$begingroup$
Many countries have already grounded 737 Max planes and as of Mar 13, 2019 the FAA have stated:
The FAA is ordering the temporary grounding of Boeing 737 MAX aircraft (PDF) operated by U.S. airlines or in U.S. territory. The agency made this decision as a result of the data gathering process and new evidence collected at the site and analyzed today. This evidence, together with newly refined satellite data available to FAA this morning, led to this decision.
Source FAA Statement on Boeing 737 Max
So why are there currently 40 737 Max planes in flight according to FlightAware?
Who would be liable should one of these flights crash on takeoff, potentially over a densely populated urban environment?
faa-regulations boeing-737
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$endgroup$
Many countries have already grounded 737 Max planes and as of Mar 13, 2019 the FAA have stated:
The FAA is ordering the temporary grounding of Boeing 737 MAX aircraft (PDF) operated by U.S. airlines or in U.S. territory. The agency made this decision as a result of the data gathering process and new evidence collected at the site and analyzed today. This evidence, together with newly refined satellite data available to FAA this morning, led to this decision.
Source FAA Statement on Boeing 737 Max
So why are there currently 40 737 Max planes in flight according to FlightAware?
Who would be liable should one of these flights crash on takeoff, potentially over a densely populated urban environment?
faa-regulations boeing-737
faa-regulations boeing-737
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The flightaware data is wrong.
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– Ben
1 hour ago
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@Ben Really? What is wrong with it?
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– DavidPostill
1 hour ago
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@Ben uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TOM733 shows Aircraft information Aircraft Type Boeing 737 MAX 8 (twin-jet)
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– DavidPostill
1 hour ago
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I don't know enough about how it gets the data but flightradar 24 gets data directly from the aircraft ADSB transmitter and it shows none of them flying at the moment. I corroborated this when flightaware displayed a Max in Australian airspace yesterday when the aircraft has been subbed to a normal 737-800.
$endgroup$
– Ben
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
TOM733 is currently operated by G-FDZY which is not a Max
$endgroup$
– Ben
1 hour ago
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The flightaware data is wrong.
$endgroup$
– Ben
1 hour ago
1
$begingroup$
@Ben Really? What is wrong with it?
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
@Ben uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TOM733 shows Aircraft information Aircraft Type Boeing 737 MAX 8 (twin-jet)
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
I don't know enough about how it gets the data but flightradar 24 gets data directly from the aircraft ADSB transmitter and it shows none of them flying at the moment. I corroborated this when flightaware displayed a Max in Australian airspace yesterday when the aircraft has been subbed to a normal 737-800.
$endgroup$
– Ben
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
TOM733 is currently operated by G-FDZY which is not a Max
$endgroup$
– Ben
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
The flightaware data is wrong.
$endgroup$
– Ben
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
The flightaware data is wrong.
$endgroup$
– Ben
1 hour ago
1
1
$begingroup$
@Ben Really? What is wrong with it?
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
@Ben Really? What is wrong with it?
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
@Ben uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TOM733 shows Aircraft information Aircraft Type Boeing 737 MAX 8 (twin-jet)
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
@Ben uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TOM733 shows Aircraft information Aircraft Type Boeing 737 MAX 8 (twin-jet)
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
I don't know enough about how it gets the data but flightradar 24 gets data directly from the aircraft ADSB transmitter and it shows none of them flying at the moment. I corroborated this when flightaware displayed a Max in Australian airspace yesterday when the aircraft has been subbed to a normal 737-800.
$endgroup$
– Ben
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
I don't know enough about how it gets the data but flightradar 24 gets data directly from the aircraft ADSB transmitter and it shows none of them flying at the moment. I corroborated this when flightaware displayed a Max in Australian airspace yesterday when the aircraft has been subbed to a normal 737-800.
$endgroup$
– Ben
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
TOM733 is currently operated by G-FDZY which is not a Max
$endgroup$
– Ben
1 hour ago
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TOM733 is currently operated by G-FDZY which is not a Max
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Most of them are probably on a ferry flight. The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 flight legs without passengers.
Some of them are travelling between countries where they are not grounded.
When a commercial plane crashes, the airline is liable, unless it can prove that the manufacturer is at fault.
answered 2 hours ago
boglbogl
3,9451733
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One of them (from Agadir) is flying into Manchester Airport. They are grounded in European airspace.
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– DavidPostill
2 hours ago
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They are grounded for passenger flights. The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 legs without passengers.
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– bogl
2 hours ago
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"The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 flight legs without passengers" - to get the plane to a location where any corrective action can be taken. There is (yet) no corrective action, and when there is it will be a software upgrade which can be done just about anywhere...
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– DavidPostill
2 hours ago
4
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@DavidPostill no. you want to do any change to your aircraft at your maintenance facilities, where your technicians are, and they are not "just about anywhere"
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– Federico♦
2 hours ago
1
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It's generally cheaper to ferry the plane to the techs than it is to ferry the techs to the plane
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Most of them are probably on a ferry flight. The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 flight legs without passengers.
Some of them are travelling between countries where they are not grounded.
When a commercial plane crashes, the airline is liable, unless it can prove that the manufacturer is at fault.
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One of them (from Agadir) is flying into Manchester Airport. They are grounded in European airspace.
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– DavidPostill
2 hours ago
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They are grounded for passenger flights. The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 legs without passengers.
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– bogl
2 hours ago
$begingroup$
"The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 flight legs without passengers" - to get the plane to a location where any corrective action can be taken. There is (yet) no corrective action, and when there is it will be a software upgrade which can be done just about anywhere...
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
2 hours ago
4
$begingroup$
@DavidPostill no. you want to do any change to your aircraft at your maintenance facilities, where your technicians are, and they are not "just about anywhere"
$endgroup$
– Federico♦
2 hours ago
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It's generally cheaper to ferry the plane to the techs than it is to ferry the techs to the plane
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Most of them are probably on a ferry flight. The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 flight legs without passengers.
Some of them are travelling between countries where they are not grounded.
When a commercial plane crashes, the airline is liable, unless it can prove that the manufacturer is at fault.
answered 2 hours ago
boglbogl
3,9451733
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$begingroup$
One of them (from Agadir) is flying into Manchester Airport. They are grounded in European airspace.
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– DavidPostill
2 hours ago
3
$begingroup$
They are grounded for passenger flights. The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 legs without passengers.
$endgroup$
– bogl
2 hours ago
$begingroup$
"The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 flight legs without passengers" - to get the plane to a location where any corrective action can be taken. There is (yet) no corrective action, and when there is it will be a software upgrade which can be done just about anywhere...
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
2 hours ago
4
$begingroup$
@DavidPostill no. you want to do any change to your aircraft at your maintenance facilities, where your technicians are, and they are not "just about anywhere"
$endgroup$
– Federico♦
2 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
It's generally cheaper to ferry the plane to the techs than it is to ferry the techs to the plane
$endgroup$
– UnrecognizedFallingObject
57 mins ago
|
show 1 more comment
$begingroup$
Most of them are probably on a ferry flight. The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 flight legs without passengers.
Some of them are travelling between countries where they are not grounded.
When a commercial plane crashes, the airline is liable, unless it can prove that the manufacturer is at fault.
answered 2 hours ago
boglbogl
3,9451733
$endgroup$
Most of them are probably on a ferry flight. The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 flight legs without passengers.
Some of them are travelling between countries where they are not grounded.
When a commercial plane crashes, the airline is liable, unless it can prove that the manufacturer is at fault.
answered 2 hours ago
boglbogl
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answered 2 hours ago
boglbogl
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answered 2 hours ago
boglbogl
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answered 2 hours ago
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One of them (from Agadir) is flying into Manchester Airport. They are grounded in European airspace.
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
2 hours ago
3
$begingroup$
They are grounded for passenger flights. The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 legs without passengers.
$endgroup$
– bogl
2 hours ago
$begingroup$
"The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 flight legs without passengers" - to get the plane to a location where any corrective action can be taken. There is (yet) no corrective action, and when there is it will be a software upgrade which can be done just about anywhere...
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
2 hours ago
4
$begingroup$
@DavidPostill no. you want to do any change to your aircraft at your maintenance facilities, where your technicians are, and they are not "just about anywhere"
$endgroup$
– Federico♦
2 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
It's generally cheaper to ferry the plane to the techs than it is to ferry the techs to the plane
$endgroup$
– UnrecognizedFallingObject
57 mins ago
|
show 1 more comment
$begingroup$
One of them (from Agadir) is flying into Manchester Airport. They are grounded in European airspace.
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
2 hours ago
3
$begingroup$
They are grounded for passenger flights. The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 legs without passengers.
$endgroup$
– bogl
2 hours ago
$begingroup$
"The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 flight legs without passengers" - to get the plane to a location where any corrective action can be taken. There is (yet) no corrective action, and when there is it will be a software upgrade which can be done just about anywhere...
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
2 hours ago
4
$begingroup$
@DavidPostill no. you want to do any change to your aircraft at your maintenance facilities, where your technicians are, and they are not "just about anywhere"
$endgroup$
– Federico♦
2 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
It's generally cheaper to ferry the plane to the techs than it is to ferry the techs to the plane
$endgroup$
– UnrecognizedFallingObject
57 mins ago
$begingroup$
One of them (from Agadir) is flying into Manchester Airport. They are grounded in European airspace.
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
2 hours ago
$begingroup$
One of them (from Agadir) is flying into Manchester Airport. They are grounded in European airspace.
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
2 hours ago
3
3
$begingroup$
They are grounded for passenger flights. The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 legs without passengers.
$endgroup$
– bogl
2 hours ago
$begingroup$
They are grounded for passenger flights. The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 legs without passengers.
$endgroup$
– bogl
2 hours ago
$begingroup$
"The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 flight legs without passengers" - to get the plane to a location where any corrective action can be taken. There is (yet) no corrective action, and when there is it will be a software upgrade which can be done just about anywhere...
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
2 hours ago
$begingroup$
"The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 flight legs without passengers" - to get the plane to a location where any corrective action can be taken. There is (yet) no corrective action, and when there is it will be a software upgrade which can be done just about anywhere...
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
2 hours ago
4
4
$begingroup$
@DavidPostill no. you want to do any change to your aircraft at your maintenance facilities, where your technicians are, and they are not "just about anywhere"
$endgroup$
– Federico♦
2 hours ago
$begingroup$
@DavidPostill no. you want to do any change to your aircraft at your maintenance facilities, where your technicians are, and they are not "just about anywhere"
$endgroup$
– Federico♦
2 hours ago
1
1
$begingroup$
It's generally cheaper to ferry the plane to the techs than it is to ferry the techs to the plane
$endgroup$
– UnrecognizedFallingObject
57 mins ago
$begingroup$
It's generally cheaper to ferry the plane to the techs than it is to ferry the techs to the plane
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The flightaware data is wrong.
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– Ben
1 hour ago
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@Ben Really? What is wrong with it?
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– DavidPostill
1 hour ago
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@Ben uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TOM733 shows Aircraft information Aircraft Type Boeing 737 MAX 8 (twin-jet)
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– DavidPostill
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
I don't know enough about how it gets the data but flightradar 24 gets data directly from the aircraft ADSB transmitter and it shows none of them flying at the moment. I corroborated this when flightaware displayed a Max in Australian airspace yesterday when the aircraft has been subbed to a normal 737-800.
$endgroup$
– Ben
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
TOM733 is currently operated by G-FDZY which is not a Max
$endgroup$
– Ben
1 hour ago