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SQL Server Primary Login Restrictions

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SQL Server Primary Login Restrictions

ApplicationIntent=ReadOnly Traffic when no Readable Secondary AvailableAvailability Group: ReadIntent connection failingAlways On Availability Group, Always redirect user to read only instanceAlwaysON - Force users connection to use Readable Secondary NodesConnection to secondary DB in AlwaysOn High AvailabilityLoad balancing reads SQL Server 2016 AGAlways On Availability Group ApplicationIntent=ReadOnly Not routing to SecondaryQuestions on Availability Group Readable Secondaryhow do I ensure that users in AlwaysOn Availability Group only connect to the secondary, even in a failoverHow to let particular logins to work on the secondary replica only?

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I have read only routing setup and working fine. I have a SQL login that accesses the readable secondary via the listener using ApplicationIntent=ReadOnly. However I want to prevent the user from accessing the primary.

I have seen a lot of topics on this and they all seem to suggest disabling the login on the primary. When I do this connections to the listener with ApplicationIntent=ReadOnly fail with Login failed for user ''. Reason: The account is disabled.

I have ensured the accounts are the same SID.

Thanks for any help.

sql-server availability-groups sql-server-2017

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  No, I checked that. I can connect to the secondary directly with the account
  
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  Can you please be more specific on this point, "However I want to prevent the user from accessing the primary." as it will change my answer.
  
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  The user should not be able to connect to the primary replica, only secondary.
  
  – Dustin Laine
  4 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

4

I have read only routing setup and working fine. I have a SQL login that accesses the readable secondary via the listener using ApplicationIntent=ReadOnly. However I want to prevent the user from accessing the primary.

I have seen a lot of topics on this and they all seem to suggest disabling the login on the primary. When I do this connections to the listener with ApplicationIntent=ReadOnly fail with Login failed for user ''. Reason: The account is disabled.

I have ensured the accounts are the same SID.

Thanks for any help.

sql-server availability-groups sql-server-2017

share|improve this question

edited 4 hours ago

Dustin Laine

asked 4 hours ago

Dustin LaineDustin Laine

1766

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  No, I checked that. I can connect to the secondary directly with the account
  
  – Dustin Laine
  4 hours ago
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Can you please be more specific on this point, "However I want to prevent the user from accessing the primary." as it will change my answer.
  
  – Sean Gallardy
  4 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  The user should not be able to connect to the primary replica, only secondary.
  
  – Dustin Laine
  4 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

I have read only routing setup and working fine. I have a SQL login that accesses the readable secondary via the listener using ApplicationIntent=ReadOnly. However I want to prevent the user from accessing the primary.

I have seen a lot of topics on this and they all seem to suggest disabling the login on the primary. When I do this connections to the listener with ApplicationIntent=ReadOnly fail with Login failed for user ''. Reason: The account is disabled.

I have ensured the accounts are the same SID.

Thanks for any help.

sql-server availability-groups sql-server-2017

share|improve this question

edited 4 hours ago

Dustin Laine

asked 4 hours ago

Dustin LaineDustin Laine

1766

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edited 4 hours ago

Dustin Laine

asked 4 hours ago

Dustin LaineDustin Laine

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I have a SQL login that accesses the readable secondary via the listener using ApplicationIntent=ReadOnly. However I want to prevent the user from accessing the primary.

More specifically:

The user should not be able to connect to the primary replica, only secondary.

In this case, it's not possible to do what you're wanting. You can't use read only routing with this as the first step in read only routing is to connect to the primary to check if the requirements to meet read only routing are correctly used and then get the metadata from the primary to understand where the new connection should take place.

You can, however, use something such as a network load balance appliance to dynamically update a cname or A record (AAAA if IPv6) to always point to a secondary. This would be specific to the load balancing software/hardware you choose to use. You could also write your own with a trivial amount of work.

share|improve this answer

answered 4 hours ago

Sean GallardySean Gallardy

16.7k22654

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  I think you cleared this up, but please let me confirm. Reading the information I previously found there is obscurity in if a listener is used. In my scenario I can still connect to the secondary directly using the disabled login approach, but they would not benefit from the routing features of the AG. If I want to use the listener then the login needs to exist and be enabled on both. Does this sound right?
  
  – Dustin Laine
  3 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @DustinLaine Correct (disabled login on the primary)!
  
  – Sean Gallardy
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

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I have a SQL login that accesses the readable secondary via the listener using ApplicationIntent=ReadOnly. However I want to prevent the user from accessing the primary.

More specifically:

The user should not be able to connect to the primary replica, only secondary.

In this case, it's not possible to do what you're wanting. You can't use read only routing with this as the first step in read only routing is to connect to the primary to check if the requirements to meet read only routing are correctly used and then get the metadata from the primary to understand where the new connection should take place.

You can, however, use something such as a network load balance appliance to dynamically update a cname or A record (AAAA if IPv6) to always point to a secondary. This would be specific to the load balancing software/hardware you choose to use. You could also write your own with a trivial amount of work.

share|improve this answer

answered 4 hours ago

Sean GallardySean Gallardy

16.7k22654

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  I think you cleared this up, but please let me confirm. Reading the information I previously found there is obscurity in if a listener is used. In my scenario I can still connect to the secondary directly using the disabled login approach, but they would not benefit from the routing features of the AG. If I want to use the listener then the login needs to exist and be enabled on both. Does this sound right?
  
  – Dustin Laine
  3 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @DustinLaine Correct (disabled login on the primary)!
  
  – Sean Gallardy
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

5

I have a SQL login that accesses the readable secondary via the listener using ApplicationIntent=ReadOnly. However I want to prevent the user from accessing the primary.

More specifically:

The user should not be able to connect to the primary replica, only secondary.

In this case, it's not possible to do what you're wanting. You can't use read only routing with this as the first step in read only routing is to connect to the primary to check if the requirements to meet read only routing are correctly used and then get the metadata from the primary to understand where the new connection should take place.

You can, however, use something such as a network load balance appliance to dynamically update a cname or A record (AAAA if IPv6) to always point to a secondary. This would be specific to the load balancing software/hardware you choose to use. You could also write your own with a trivial amount of work.

share|improve this answer

answered 4 hours ago

Sean GallardySean Gallardy

16.7k22654

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  I think you cleared this up, but please let me confirm. Reading the information I previously found there is obscurity in if a listener is used. In my scenario I can still connect to the secondary directly using the disabled login approach, but they would not benefit from the routing features of the AG. If I want to use the listener then the login needs to exist and be enabled on both. Does this sound right?
  
  – Dustin Laine
  3 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @DustinLaine Correct (disabled login on the primary)!
  
  – Sean Gallardy
  2 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

I have a SQL login that accesses the readable secondary via the listener using ApplicationIntent=ReadOnly. However I want to prevent the user from accessing the primary.

More specifically:

The user should not be able to connect to the primary replica, only secondary.

In this case, it's not possible to do what you're wanting. You can't use read only routing with this as the first step in read only routing is to connect to the primary to check if the requirements to meet read only routing are correctly used and then get the metadata from the primary to understand where the new connection should take place.

You can, however, use something such as a network load balance appliance to dynamically update a cname or A record (AAAA if IPv6) to always point to a secondary. This would be specific to the load balancing software/hardware you choose to use. You could also write your own with a trivial amount of work.

share|improve this answer

answered 4 hours ago

Sean GallardySean Gallardy

16.7k22654

share|improve this answer

answered 4 hours ago

Sean GallardySean Gallardy

16.7k22654

answered 4 hours ago

Sean GallardySean Gallardy

16.7k22654

answered 4 hours ago

Sean GallardySean Gallardy

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