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Tortilla press geometry problems
How to Get a Nice, Round Home-made Corn TortillaIs It Possible to make corn tortillas at home without a press?What's the difference between a burrito and a tortilla?How do you ensure a tortilla keeps all its contents when making a burrito?How to cook cubed fish for a fish taco (tortilla)How can I get a corn tortilla to be pliable enough to work with?How long does tortilla dough keep for?Fried flour tortilla from scratch cook first or just frytortilla recipe with longest shelf lifeWhy use lard in tortilla dough?
I have a fairly typical Mexican-made tortilla press, and I've had it for a while. It works of course, but there's a persistent problem of the part of the tortilla at the hinge end of the press ending up much thinner than the part where the lever is.
That makes sense of course; this particular press has almost no "play" at all at the hinge, and when the plates are fully closed they're touching with basically no wiggle.
I'm not asking for a recommendation for another brand so much as asking whether there may be certain patterns of hinge design that allow for a little bit of play in the hinge so that that end of the tortilla doesn't get pinched down to nothing.
I also wonder if the real problem may be that mine is a little 6" or so press instead of a larger 8" press.
I probably should just go fool around with presses at a local market and check to see; I hadn't used mine in a while but I did over the weekend and I got somewhat frustrated.
edit — for those not familiar with what a "tortilla press" looks like, it's a simple pair of flat round iron plates connected by a hinge. Opposite the hinge is a lever that allows the plates to be forced together.
If you hold your hands in front of you with the heels of your hands together and your fingers out in a big "V" shape, that's basically what the press looks like when open. As the press closes, the distance between the plates gets smaller, but it gets smaller more quickly at the hinge side than the other side. That issue is my problem.
The tl;dr of my question is whether there exist some presses that have enough looseness in the hinge mechanism to keep that part of the press from squeezing the tortilla dough too thin.
mexican-cuisine tortilla tortilla-press
add a comment |
I have a fairly typical Mexican-made tortilla press, and I've had it for a while. It works of course, but there's a persistent problem of the part of the tortilla at the hinge end of the press ending up much thinner than the part where the lever is.
That makes sense of course; this particular press has almost no "play" at all at the hinge, and when the plates are fully closed they're touching with basically no wiggle.
I'm not asking for a recommendation for another brand so much as asking whether there may be certain patterns of hinge design that allow for a little bit of play in the hinge so that that end of the tortilla doesn't get pinched down to nothing.
I also wonder if the real problem may be that mine is a little 6" or so press instead of a larger 8" press.
I probably should just go fool around with presses at a local market and check to see; I hadn't used mine in a while but I did over the weekend and I got somewhat frustrated.
edit — for those not familiar with what a "tortilla press" looks like, it's a simple pair of flat round iron plates connected by a hinge. Opposite the hinge is a lever that allows the plates to be forced together.
If you hold your hands in front of you with the heels of your hands together and your fingers out in a big "V" shape, that's basically what the press looks like when open. As the press closes, the distance between the plates gets smaller, but it gets smaller more quickly at the hinge side than the other side. That issue is my problem.
The tl;dr of my question is whether there exist some presses that have enough looseness in the hinge mechanism to keep that part of the press from squeezing the tortilla dough too thin.
mexican-cuisine tortilla tortilla-press
2
i have the same issue with mine, and my only work-around is placing my masa ball slightly further away from the hinge side before pressing it. not ideal, and this only works if you are making tortillas that are small-ish in comparison to the size of your press
– canardgras
Mar 19 at 11:37
@canardgras thanks. I'll look around at a couple of local markets and see what I find. The Jauja Cucina Mexicana lady on youtube (highly recommended) uses what looks like an 8" press and doesn't seem to have any issues, so that's thing I'm considering.
– Pointy
Mar 19 at 13:35
1
I am not submitting this as an answer as I have never used a tortilla press, but could you flip your tortilla and press it a second time to try to even it out at the hinge ?
– Sarumanatee
Mar 19 at 14:34
@Sarumanatee yes I have a feeling that that's what some people do. Still, with a small press like mine, once you get to the desired thinness on the "fat" end, the other end is too thin. Thank you for thinking about the problem however :)
– Pointy
Mar 19 at 14:47
add a comment |
I have a fairly typical Mexican-made tortilla press, and I've had it for a while. It works of course, but there's a persistent problem of the part of the tortilla at the hinge end of the press ending up much thinner than the part where the lever is.
That makes sense of course; this particular press has almost no "play" at all at the hinge, and when the plates are fully closed they're touching with basically no wiggle.
I'm not asking for a recommendation for another brand so much as asking whether there may be certain patterns of hinge design that allow for a little bit of play in the hinge so that that end of the tortilla doesn't get pinched down to nothing.
I also wonder if the real problem may be that mine is a little 6" or so press instead of a larger 8" press.
I probably should just go fool around with presses at a local market and check to see; I hadn't used mine in a while but I did over the weekend and I got somewhat frustrated.
edit — for those not familiar with what a "tortilla press" looks like, it's a simple pair of flat round iron plates connected by a hinge. Opposite the hinge is a lever that allows the plates to be forced together.
If you hold your hands in front of you with the heels of your hands together and your fingers out in a big "V" shape, that's basically what the press looks like when open. As the press closes, the distance between the plates gets smaller, but it gets smaller more quickly at the hinge side than the other side. That issue is my problem.
The tl;dr of my question is whether there exist some presses that have enough looseness in the hinge mechanism to keep that part of the press from squeezing the tortilla dough too thin.
mexican-cuisine tortilla tortilla-press
I have a fairly typical Mexican-made tortilla press, and I've had it for a while. It works of course, but there's a persistent problem of the part of the tortilla at the hinge end of the press ending up much thinner than the part where the lever is.
That makes sense of course; this particular press has almost no "play" at all at the hinge, and when the plates are fully closed they're touching with basically no wiggle.
I'm not asking for a recommendation for another brand so much as asking whether there may be certain patterns of hinge design that allow for a little bit of play in the hinge so that that end of the tortilla doesn't get pinched down to nothing.
I also wonder if the real problem may be that mine is a little 6" or so press instead of a larger 8" press.
I probably should just go fool around with presses at a local market and check to see; I hadn't used mine in a while but I did over the weekend and I got somewhat frustrated.
edit — for those not familiar with what a "tortilla press" looks like, it's a simple pair of flat round iron plates connected by a hinge. Opposite the hinge is a lever that allows the plates to be forced together.
If you hold your hands in front of you with the heels of your hands together and your fingers out in a big "V" shape, that's basically what the press looks like when open. As the press closes, the distance between the plates gets smaller, but it gets smaller more quickly at the hinge side than the other side. That issue is my problem.
The tl;dr of my question is whether there exist some presses that have enough looseness in the hinge mechanism to keep that part of the press from squeezing the tortilla dough too thin.
mexican-cuisine tortilla tortilla-press
mexican-cuisine tortilla tortilla-press
edited Mar 19 at 14:54
Pointy
asked Mar 19 at 0:36
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i have the same issue with mine, and my only work-around is placing my masa ball slightly further away from the hinge side before pressing it. not ideal, and this only works if you are making tortillas that are small-ish in comparison to the size of your press
– canardgras
Mar 19 at 11:37
@canardgras thanks. I'll look around at a couple of local markets and see what I find. The Jauja Cucina Mexicana lady on youtube (highly recommended) uses what looks like an 8" press and doesn't seem to have any issues, so that's thing I'm considering.
– Pointy
Mar 19 at 13:35
1
I am not submitting this as an answer as I have never used a tortilla press, but could you flip your tortilla and press it a second time to try to even it out at the hinge ?
– Sarumanatee
Mar 19 at 14:34
@Sarumanatee yes I have a feeling that that's what some people do. Still, with a small press like mine, once you get to the desired thinness on the "fat" end, the other end is too thin. Thank you for thinking about the problem however :)
– Pointy
Mar 19 at 14:47
add a comment |
2
i have the same issue with mine, and my only work-around is placing my masa ball slightly further away from the hinge side before pressing it. not ideal, and this only works if you are making tortillas that are small-ish in comparison to the size of your press
– canardgras
Mar 19 at 11:37
@canardgras thanks. I'll look around at a couple of local markets and see what I find. The Jauja Cucina Mexicana lady on youtube (highly recommended) uses what looks like an 8" press and doesn't seem to have any issues, so that's thing I'm considering.
– Pointy
Mar 19 at 13:35
1
I am not submitting this as an answer as I have never used a tortilla press, but could you flip your tortilla and press it a second time to try to even it out at the hinge ?
– Sarumanatee
Mar 19 at 14:34
@Sarumanatee yes I have a feeling that that's what some people do. Still, with a small press like mine, once you get to the desired thinness on the "fat" end, the other end is too thin. Thank you for thinking about the problem however :)
– Pointy
Mar 19 at 14:47
2
2
i have the same issue with mine, and my only work-around is placing my masa ball slightly further away from the hinge side before pressing it. not ideal, and this only works if you are making tortillas that are small-ish in comparison to the size of your press
– canardgras
Mar 19 at 11:37
i have the same issue with mine, and my only work-around is placing my masa ball slightly further away from the hinge side before pressing it. not ideal, and this only works if you are making tortillas that are small-ish in comparison to the size of your press
– canardgras
Mar 19 at 11:37
@canardgras thanks. I'll look around at a couple of local markets and see what I find. The Jauja Cucina Mexicana lady on youtube (highly recommended) uses what looks like an 8" press and doesn't seem to have any issues, so that's thing I'm considering.
– Pointy
Mar 19 at 13:35
@canardgras thanks. I'll look around at a couple of local markets and see what I find. The Jauja Cucina Mexicana lady on youtube (highly recommended) uses what looks like an 8" press and doesn't seem to have any issues, so that's thing I'm considering.
– Pointy
Mar 19 at 13:35
1
1
I am not submitting this as an answer as I have never used a tortilla press, but could you flip your tortilla and press it a second time to try to even it out at the hinge ?
– Sarumanatee
Mar 19 at 14:34
I am not submitting this as an answer as I have never used a tortilla press, but could you flip your tortilla and press it a second time to try to even it out at the hinge ?
– Sarumanatee
Mar 19 at 14:34
@Sarumanatee yes I have a feeling that that's what some people do. Still, with a small press like mine, once you get to the desired thinness on the "fat" end, the other end is too thin. Thank you for thinking about the problem however :)
– Pointy
Mar 19 at 14:47
@Sarumanatee yes I have a feeling that that's what some people do. Still, with a small press like mine, once you get to the desired thinness on the "fat" end, the other end is too thin. Thank you for thinking about the problem however :)
– Pointy
Mar 19 at 14:47
add a comment |
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Much like homemade pasta if you are making your own tortillas instead of buying ready-made ones it's because you want fresh and to be certain of the ingredients; it's not done to save time and effort, and the financial rewards are tiny unless you really make a lot of them.
I probably should just go fool around with presses at a local market and check to see; I hadn't used mine in a while but I did over the weekend and I got somewhat frustrated
Because this is something that many people lose interest in doing you might find a high quality second hand press, with very little usage. The correct dough and consistency also play a big role in obtaining the best results.
Tortilla press geometry problems
... when the plates are fully closed they're touching with basically no wiggle.
When fully closed there needs to be a bit of a gap, some thickness, otherwise you are pressing a wedge shape. Flipping and pressing twice allows less force to be used each time, lengthening the lifetime of your press and reducing your effort, and ensures an even thickness for even cooking.
Instructions from Victoria Cast Iron (1939):
Prepare your masa dough according to the instructions on
package. For this example, we'll use Maseca: just mix 2 cups of
Maseca, 1.25 cups of water, and a pinch of salt. Mix the dough until it has the consistency of Play Dough. Once ready, separate the dough
into 16 small balls about 1.25 inch wide.Pro tip! Cut a zip-top disposable plastic bag along the corners to
make two square plastic sheets (usually the sandwich size is perfect). Place one of the plastic sheets on the bottom plate. Place a ball of dough slightly off-center, towards the closing hinge. Place the second plastic square on top. (If you do not have zip-top bags, cling wrap or parchment paper can work too).Close the top plate. The weight of the plate will help you press
down, and the lever will help you finish the press firmly. Not too much force is necessary.Open the press, place the plastic covered tortilla on one hand, &
peel off the top plastic with the other hand. Flip the tortilla over onto your other hand and now peel back the second plastic square. (Note: They don't suggest pressing twice, as they have a gapped hinge).You can start putting your pressed tortillas directly on a hot griddle, or on a plate separated with sheets of parchment paper if you prefer to cook or freeze them later.
First, use the correct ingredients. Wheat flour tortillas are rolled with a rolling pin, corn tortillas are pressed; assuming that you are not using the traditional method of doing it entirely by hand.
Corn flour isn't what you want to use (if you are interested in using the correct ingredients and having everything turn out properly). You want to use nixtamalized maize (dried corn boiled in slaked lime, calcium hydroxide) also referred to as ground hominy. Another name for slaked lime, or Cal, is pickling lime (which, ironically, shouldn't be used for pickling).
From Wikipedia's webpage:
In Mexican cooking, hominy is finely ground to make masa. Fresh masa that has been dried and powdered is called masa seca or masa harina. Some of the corn oil breaks down into emulsifying agents (monoglycerides and diglycerides), and facilitates bonding the corn proteins to each other. The divalent calcium in lime acts as a cross-linking agent for protein and polysaccharide acidic side chains. Cornmeal from untreated ground corn cannot form a dough with the addition of water, but the chemical changes in masa (aka masa nixtamalera) make dough formation possible, for tortillas and other food.
You can purchase Maseca (generic name for corn flour) but the Organic Consumers Association has a warning and a list of alternative sources that might interest you.
It is also possible to make your own masa:
Boil cold water (it tastes better than hot water that has sat in your water heater).
Add two pounds of inspected dried corn and bring back to a boil.
Dissolve 5 tablespoons of Cal in a cup of water.
Pour the Cal/water mixture into the boiling water and corn.
Almost immediately the corn will turn a bright yellow color, reduce the heat to a slow boil, then turn off and let it sit overnight.
In the morning the corn will have lost its skin. Scrub it by hand and repeatedly wash in a strainer to completely clean the corn.
You now put the wet corn through a hand grinder twice to obtain the correct consistency, not too fine nor too coarse.
Course ground is useful for tostadas, while too finely ground is useful for nothing.
No one will be too critical it you simply buy ground hominy as it saves a lot of time and messing. Making your own is slightly cheaper but doing so guarantees the quality, and lack of preservatives.
If you eat a lot of maize dishes it's worthwhile to make your own dough. If you eat a lot of tortilla based dishes it's worthwhile to buy a press. If you eat these dishes infrequently it's probably easiest, but not the healthiest option, to buy ready-made.
There's more than one set of instructions being offered for making nixtamalized maize, see: "Easy Nixtamalized Corn Tortillas Recipe", "Nixtamalized Corn maize El Salvador recipe", and "Make Masa: Nixtamalized Corn", amongst many others. Video: "Nixtamalization - How to make Masa and Hominy from Dried Corn" by the Flavor Lab.
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When fully closed there needs to be a bit of a gap, some thickness, otherwise you are pressing a wedge shape. — yes, that is exactly the question. So with thanks for your deeply informative answer, all I'm really looking for is insight into whether there is such a thing as a tortilla press with enough "play" in the hinge to prevent the hinge-end of the tortilla from getting squeezed way too much.
– Pointy
Mar 19 at 19:02
1
A correctly designed press has a gap (offset).
– Rob
Mar 19 at 20:51
1
Awesome, thanks Rob, I'll be hitting the local Fiesta etc. in the next few days :)
– Pointy
Mar 19 at 21:16
1
@Pointy If you are buying used don't get wood since it won't be very easy to clean, with a metal one you will have durability and you can drop a coin between the plates - listen to the coin sliding when it's closed so you know that there is a gap.
– Rob
Mar 19 at 23:30
1
good idea! Thanks much.
– Pointy
Mar 19 at 23:30
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Much like homemade pasta if you are making your own tortillas instead of buying ready-made ones it's because you want fresh and to be certain of the ingredients; it's not done to save time and effort, and the financial rewards are tiny unless you really make a lot of them.
I probably should just go fool around with presses at a local market and check to see; I hadn't used mine in a while but I did over the weekend and I got somewhat frustrated
Because this is something that many people lose interest in doing you might find a high quality second hand press, with very little usage. The correct dough and consistency also play a big role in obtaining the best results.
Tortilla press geometry problems
... when the plates are fully closed they're touching with basically no wiggle.
When fully closed there needs to be a bit of a gap, some thickness, otherwise you are pressing a wedge shape. Flipping and pressing twice allows less force to be used each time, lengthening the lifetime of your press and reducing your effort, and ensures an even thickness for even cooking.
Instructions from Victoria Cast Iron (1939):
Prepare your masa dough according to the instructions on
package. For this example, we'll use Maseca: just mix 2 cups of
Maseca, 1.25 cups of water, and a pinch of salt. Mix the dough until it has the consistency of Play Dough. Once ready, separate the dough
into 16 small balls about 1.25 inch wide.Pro tip! Cut a zip-top disposable plastic bag along the corners to
make two square plastic sheets (usually the sandwich size is perfect). Place one of the plastic sheets on the bottom plate. Place a ball of dough slightly off-center, towards the closing hinge. Place the second plastic square on top. (If you do not have zip-top bags, cling wrap or parchment paper can work too).Close the top plate. The weight of the plate will help you press
down, and the lever will help you finish the press firmly. Not too much force is necessary.Open the press, place the plastic covered tortilla on one hand, &
peel off the top plastic with the other hand. Flip the tortilla over onto your other hand and now peel back the second plastic square. (Note: They don't suggest pressing twice, as they have a gapped hinge).You can start putting your pressed tortillas directly on a hot griddle, or on a plate separated with sheets of parchment paper if you prefer to cook or freeze them later.
First, use the correct ingredients. Wheat flour tortillas are rolled with a rolling pin, corn tortillas are pressed; assuming that you are not using the traditional method of doing it entirely by hand.
Corn flour isn't what you want to use (if you are interested in using the correct ingredients and having everything turn out properly). You want to use nixtamalized maize (dried corn boiled in slaked lime, calcium hydroxide) also referred to as ground hominy. Another name for slaked lime, or Cal, is pickling lime (which, ironically, shouldn't be used for pickling).
From Wikipedia's webpage:
In Mexican cooking, hominy is finely ground to make masa. Fresh masa that has been dried and powdered is called masa seca or masa harina. Some of the corn oil breaks down into emulsifying agents (monoglycerides and diglycerides), and facilitates bonding the corn proteins to each other. The divalent calcium in lime acts as a cross-linking agent for protein and polysaccharide acidic side chains. Cornmeal from untreated ground corn cannot form a dough with the addition of water, but the chemical changes in masa (aka masa nixtamalera) make dough formation possible, for tortillas and other food.
You can purchase Maseca (generic name for corn flour) but the Organic Consumers Association has a warning and a list of alternative sources that might interest you.
It is also possible to make your own masa:
Boil cold water (it tastes better than hot water that has sat in your water heater).
Add two pounds of inspected dried corn and bring back to a boil.
Dissolve 5 tablespoons of Cal in a cup of water.
Pour the Cal/water mixture into the boiling water and corn.
Almost immediately the corn will turn a bright yellow color, reduce the heat to a slow boil, then turn off and let it sit overnight.
In the morning the corn will have lost its skin. Scrub it by hand and repeatedly wash in a strainer to completely clean the corn.
You now put the wet corn through a hand grinder twice to obtain the correct consistency, not too fine nor too coarse.
Course ground is useful for tostadas, while too finely ground is useful for nothing.
No one will be too critical it you simply buy ground hominy as it saves a lot of time and messing. Making your own is slightly cheaper but doing so guarantees the quality, and lack of preservatives.
If you eat a lot of maize dishes it's worthwhile to make your own dough. If you eat a lot of tortilla based dishes it's worthwhile to buy a press. If you eat these dishes infrequently it's probably easiest, but not the healthiest option, to buy ready-made.
There's more than one set of instructions being offered for making nixtamalized maize, see: "Easy Nixtamalized Corn Tortillas Recipe", "Nixtamalized Corn maize El Salvador recipe", and "Make Masa: Nixtamalized Corn", amongst many others. Video: "Nixtamalization - How to make Masa and Hominy from Dried Corn" by the Flavor Lab.
1
When fully closed there needs to be a bit of a gap, some thickness, otherwise you are pressing a wedge shape. — yes, that is exactly the question. So with thanks for your deeply informative answer, all I'm really looking for is insight into whether there is such a thing as a tortilla press with enough "play" in the hinge to prevent the hinge-end of the tortilla from getting squeezed way too much.
– Pointy
Mar 19 at 19:02
1
A correctly designed press has a gap (offset).
– Rob
Mar 19 at 20:51
1
Awesome, thanks Rob, I'll be hitting the local Fiesta etc. in the next few days :)
– Pointy
Mar 19 at 21:16
1
@Pointy If you are buying used don't get wood since it won't be very easy to clean, with a metal one you will have durability and you can drop a coin between the plates - listen to the coin sliding when it's closed so you know that there is a gap.
– Rob
Mar 19 at 23:30
1
good idea! Thanks much.
– Pointy
Mar 19 at 23:30
|
show 1 more comment
Much like homemade pasta if you are making your own tortillas instead of buying ready-made ones it's because you want fresh and to be certain of the ingredients; it's not done to save time and effort, and the financial rewards are tiny unless you really make a lot of them.
I probably should just go fool around with presses at a local market and check to see; I hadn't used mine in a while but I did over the weekend and I got somewhat frustrated
Because this is something that many people lose interest in doing you might find a high quality second hand press, with very little usage. The correct dough and consistency also play a big role in obtaining the best results.
Tortilla press geometry problems
... when the plates are fully closed they're touching with basically no wiggle.
When fully closed there needs to be a bit of a gap, some thickness, otherwise you are pressing a wedge shape. Flipping and pressing twice allows less force to be used each time, lengthening the lifetime of your press and reducing your effort, and ensures an even thickness for even cooking.
Instructions from Victoria Cast Iron (1939):
Prepare your masa dough according to the instructions on
package. For this example, we'll use Maseca: just mix 2 cups of
Maseca, 1.25 cups of water, and a pinch of salt. Mix the dough until it has the consistency of Play Dough. Once ready, separate the dough
into 16 small balls about 1.25 inch wide.Pro tip! Cut a zip-top disposable plastic bag along the corners to
make two square plastic sheets (usually the sandwich size is perfect). Place one of the plastic sheets on the bottom plate. Place a ball of dough slightly off-center, towards the closing hinge. Place the second plastic square on top. (If you do not have zip-top bags, cling wrap or parchment paper can work too).Close the top plate. The weight of the plate will help you press
down, and the lever will help you finish the press firmly. Not too much force is necessary.Open the press, place the plastic covered tortilla on one hand, &
peel off the top plastic with the other hand. Flip the tortilla over onto your other hand and now peel back the second plastic square. (Note: They don't suggest pressing twice, as they have a gapped hinge).You can start putting your pressed tortillas directly on a hot griddle, or on a plate separated with sheets of parchment paper if you prefer to cook or freeze them later.
First, use the correct ingredients. Wheat flour tortillas are rolled with a rolling pin, corn tortillas are pressed; assuming that you are not using the traditional method of doing it entirely by hand.
Corn flour isn't what you want to use (if you are interested in using the correct ingredients and having everything turn out properly). You want to use nixtamalized maize (dried corn boiled in slaked lime, calcium hydroxide) also referred to as ground hominy. Another name for slaked lime, or Cal, is pickling lime (which, ironically, shouldn't be used for pickling).
From Wikipedia's webpage:
In Mexican cooking, hominy is finely ground to make masa. Fresh masa that has been dried and powdered is called masa seca or masa harina. Some of the corn oil breaks down into emulsifying agents (monoglycerides and diglycerides), and facilitates bonding the corn proteins to each other. The divalent calcium in lime acts as a cross-linking agent for protein and polysaccharide acidic side chains. Cornmeal from untreated ground corn cannot form a dough with the addition of water, but the chemical changes in masa (aka masa nixtamalera) make dough formation possible, for tortillas and other food.
You can purchase Maseca (generic name for corn flour) but the Organic Consumers Association has a warning and a list of alternative sources that might interest you.
It is also possible to make your own masa:
Boil cold water (it tastes better than hot water that has sat in your water heater).
Add two pounds of inspected dried corn and bring back to a boil.
Dissolve 5 tablespoons of Cal in a cup of water.
Pour the Cal/water mixture into the boiling water and corn.
Almost immediately the corn will turn a bright yellow color, reduce the heat to a slow boil, then turn off and let it sit overnight.
In the morning the corn will have lost its skin. Scrub it by hand and repeatedly wash in a strainer to completely clean the corn.
You now put the wet corn through a hand grinder twice to obtain the correct consistency, not too fine nor too coarse.
Course ground is useful for tostadas, while too finely ground is useful for nothing.
No one will be too critical it you simply buy ground hominy as it saves a lot of time and messing. Making your own is slightly cheaper but doing so guarantees the quality, and lack of preservatives.
If you eat a lot of maize dishes it's worthwhile to make your own dough. If you eat a lot of tortilla based dishes it's worthwhile to buy a press. If you eat these dishes infrequently it's probably easiest, but not the healthiest option, to buy ready-made.
There's more than one set of instructions being offered for making nixtamalized maize, see: "Easy Nixtamalized Corn Tortillas Recipe", "Nixtamalized Corn maize El Salvador recipe", and "Make Masa: Nixtamalized Corn", amongst many others. Video: "Nixtamalization - How to make Masa and Hominy from Dried Corn" by the Flavor Lab.
1
When fully closed there needs to be a bit of a gap, some thickness, otherwise you are pressing a wedge shape. — yes, that is exactly the question. So with thanks for your deeply informative answer, all I'm really looking for is insight into whether there is such a thing as a tortilla press with enough "play" in the hinge to prevent the hinge-end of the tortilla from getting squeezed way too much.
– Pointy
Mar 19 at 19:02
1
A correctly designed press has a gap (offset).
– Rob
Mar 19 at 20:51
1
Awesome, thanks Rob, I'll be hitting the local Fiesta etc. in the next few days :)
– Pointy
Mar 19 at 21:16
1
@Pointy If you are buying used don't get wood since it won't be very easy to clean, with a metal one you will have durability and you can drop a coin between the plates - listen to the coin sliding when it's closed so you know that there is a gap.
– Rob
Mar 19 at 23:30
1
good idea! Thanks much.
– Pointy
Mar 19 at 23:30
|
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Much like homemade pasta if you are making your own tortillas instead of buying ready-made ones it's because you want fresh and to be certain of the ingredients; it's not done to save time and effort, and the financial rewards are tiny unless you really make a lot of them.
I probably should just go fool around with presses at a local market and check to see; I hadn't used mine in a while but I did over the weekend and I got somewhat frustrated
Because this is something that many people lose interest in doing you might find a high quality second hand press, with very little usage. The correct dough and consistency also play a big role in obtaining the best results.
Tortilla press geometry problems
... when the plates are fully closed they're touching with basically no wiggle.
When fully closed there needs to be a bit of a gap, some thickness, otherwise you are pressing a wedge shape. Flipping and pressing twice allows less force to be used each time, lengthening the lifetime of your press and reducing your effort, and ensures an even thickness for even cooking.
Instructions from Victoria Cast Iron (1939):
Prepare your masa dough according to the instructions on
package. For this example, we'll use Maseca: just mix 2 cups of
Maseca, 1.25 cups of water, and a pinch of salt. Mix the dough until it has the consistency of Play Dough. Once ready, separate the dough
into 16 small balls about 1.25 inch wide.Pro tip! Cut a zip-top disposable plastic bag along the corners to
make two square plastic sheets (usually the sandwich size is perfect). Place one of the plastic sheets on the bottom plate. Place a ball of dough slightly off-center, towards the closing hinge. Place the second plastic square on top. (If you do not have zip-top bags, cling wrap or parchment paper can work too).Close the top plate. The weight of the plate will help you press
down, and the lever will help you finish the press firmly. Not too much force is necessary.Open the press, place the plastic covered tortilla on one hand, &
peel off the top plastic with the other hand. Flip the tortilla over onto your other hand and now peel back the second plastic square. (Note: They don't suggest pressing twice, as they have a gapped hinge).You can start putting your pressed tortillas directly on a hot griddle, or on a plate separated with sheets of parchment paper if you prefer to cook or freeze them later.
First, use the correct ingredients. Wheat flour tortillas are rolled with a rolling pin, corn tortillas are pressed; assuming that you are not using the traditional method of doing it entirely by hand.
Corn flour isn't what you want to use (if you are interested in using the correct ingredients and having everything turn out properly). You want to use nixtamalized maize (dried corn boiled in slaked lime, calcium hydroxide) also referred to as ground hominy. Another name for slaked lime, or Cal, is pickling lime (which, ironically, shouldn't be used for pickling).
From Wikipedia's webpage:
In Mexican cooking, hominy is finely ground to make masa. Fresh masa that has been dried and powdered is called masa seca or masa harina. Some of the corn oil breaks down into emulsifying agents (monoglycerides and diglycerides), and facilitates bonding the corn proteins to each other. The divalent calcium in lime acts as a cross-linking agent for protein and polysaccharide acidic side chains. Cornmeal from untreated ground corn cannot form a dough with the addition of water, but the chemical changes in masa (aka masa nixtamalera) make dough formation possible, for tortillas and other food.
You can purchase Maseca (generic name for corn flour) but the Organic Consumers Association has a warning and a list of alternative sources that might interest you.
It is also possible to make your own masa:
Boil cold water (it tastes better than hot water that has sat in your water heater).
Add two pounds of inspected dried corn and bring back to a boil.
Dissolve 5 tablespoons of Cal in a cup of water.
Pour the Cal/water mixture into the boiling water and corn.
Almost immediately the corn will turn a bright yellow color, reduce the heat to a slow boil, then turn off and let it sit overnight.
In the morning the corn will have lost its skin. Scrub it by hand and repeatedly wash in a strainer to completely clean the corn.
You now put the wet corn through a hand grinder twice to obtain the correct consistency, not too fine nor too coarse.
Course ground is useful for tostadas, while too finely ground is useful for nothing.
No one will be too critical it you simply buy ground hominy as it saves a lot of time and messing. Making your own is slightly cheaper but doing so guarantees the quality, and lack of preservatives.
If you eat a lot of maize dishes it's worthwhile to make your own dough. If you eat a lot of tortilla based dishes it's worthwhile to buy a press. If you eat these dishes infrequently it's probably easiest, but not the healthiest option, to buy ready-made.
There's more than one set of instructions being offered for making nixtamalized maize, see: "Easy Nixtamalized Corn Tortillas Recipe", "Nixtamalized Corn maize El Salvador recipe", and "Make Masa: Nixtamalized Corn", amongst many others. Video: "Nixtamalization - How to make Masa and Hominy from Dried Corn" by the Flavor Lab.
Much like homemade pasta if you are making your own tortillas instead of buying ready-made ones it's because you want fresh and to be certain of the ingredients; it's not done to save time and effort, and the financial rewards are tiny unless you really make a lot of them.
I probably should just go fool around with presses at a local market and check to see; I hadn't used mine in a while but I did over the weekend and I got somewhat frustrated
Because this is something that many people lose interest in doing you might find a high quality second hand press, with very little usage. The correct dough and consistency also play a big role in obtaining the best results.
Tortilla press geometry problems
... when the plates are fully closed they're touching with basically no wiggle.
When fully closed there needs to be a bit of a gap, some thickness, otherwise you are pressing a wedge shape. Flipping and pressing twice allows less force to be used each time, lengthening the lifetime of your press and reducing your effort, and ensures an even thickness for even cooking.
Instructions from Victoria Cast Iron (1939):
Prepare your masa dough according to the instructions on
package. For this example, we'll use Maseca: just mix 2 cups of
Maseca, 1.25 cups of water, and a pinch of salt. Mix the dough until it has the consistency of Play Dough. Once ready, separate the dough
into 16 small balls about 1.25 inch wide.Pro tip! Cut a zip-top disposable plastic bag along the corners to
make two square plastic sheets (usually the sandwich size is perfect). Place one of the plastic sheets on the bottom plate. Place a ball of dough slightly off-center, towards the closing hinge. Place the second plastic square on top. (If you do not have zip-top bags, cling wrap or parchment paper can work too).Close the top plate. The weight of the plate will help you press
down, and the lever will help you finish the press firmly. Not too much force is necessary.Open the press, place the plastic covered tortilla on one hand, &
peel off the top plastic with the other hand. Flip the tortilla over onto your other hand and now peel back the second plastic square. (Note: They don't suggest pressing twice, as they have a gapped hinge).You can start putting your pressed tortillas directly on a hot griddle, or on a plate separated with sheets of parchment paper if you prefer to cook or freeze them later.
First, use the correct ingredients. Wheat flour tortillas are rolled with a rolling pin, corn tortillas are pressed; assuming that you are not using the traditional method of doing it entirely by hand.
Corn flour isn't what you want to use (if you are interested in using the correct ingredients and having everything turn out properly). You want to use nixtamalized maize (dried corn boiled in slaked lime, calcium hydroxide) also referred to as ground hominy. Another name for slaked lime, or Cal, is pickling lime (which, ironically, shouldn't be used for pickling).
From Wikipedia's webpage:
In Mexican cooking, hominy is finely ground to make masa. Fresh masa that has been dried and powdered is called masa seca or masa harina. Some of the corn oil breaks down into emulsifying agents (monoglycerides and diglycerides), and facilitates bonding the corn proteins to each other. The divalent calcium in lime acts as a cross-linking agent for protein and polysaccharide acidic side chains. Cornmeal from untreated ground corn cannot form a dough with the addition of water, but the chemical changes in masa (aka masa nixtamalera) make dough formation possible, for tortillas and other food.
You can purchase Maseca (generic name for corn flour) but the Organic Consumers Association has a warning and a list of alternative sources that might interest you.
It is also possible to make your own masa:
Boil cold water (it tastes better than hot water that has sat in your water heater).
Add two pounds of inspected dried corn and bring back to a boil.
Dissolve 5 tablespoons of Cal in a cup of water.
Pour the Cal/water mixture into the boiling water and corn.
Almost immediately the corn will turn a bright yellow color, reduce the heat to a slow boil, then turn off and let it sit overnight.
In the morning the corn will have lost its skin. Scrub it by hand and repeatedly wash in a strainer to completely clean the corn.
You now put the wet corn through a hand grinder twice to obtain the correct consistency, not too fine nor too coarse.
Course ground is useful for tostadas, while too finely ground is useful for nothing.
No one will be too critical it you simply buy ground hominy as it saves a lot of time and messing. Making your own is slightly cheaper but doing so guarantees the quality, and lack of preservatives.
If you eat a lot of maize dishes it's worthwhile to make your own dough. If you eat a lot of tortilla based dishes it's worthwhile to buy a press. If you eat these dishes infrequently it's probably easiest, but not the healthiest option, to buy ready-made.
There's more than one set of instructions being offered for making nixtamalized maize, see: "Easy Nixtamalized Corn Tortillas Recipe", "Nixtamalized Corn maize El Salvador recipe", and "Make Masa: Nixtamalized Corn", amongst many others. Video: "Nixtamalization - How to make Masa and Hominy from Dried Corn" by the Flavor Lab.
answered Mar 19 at 18:23
RobRob
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When fully closed there needs to be a bit of a gap, some thickness, otherwise you are pressing a wedge shape. — yes, that is exactly the question. So with thanks for your deeply informative answer, all I'm really looking for is insight into whether there is such a thing as a tortilla press with enough "play" in the hinge to prevent the hinge-end of the tortilla from getting squeezed way too much.
– Pointy
Mar 19 at 19:02
1
A correctly designed press has a gap (offset).
– Rob
Mar 19 at 20:51
1
Awesome, thanks Rob, I'll be hitting the local Fiesta etc. in the next few days :)
– Pointy
Mar 19 at 21:16
1
@Pointy If you are buying used don't get wood since it won't be very easy to clean, with a metal one you will have durability and you can drop a coin between the plates - listen to the coin sliding when it's closed so you know that there is a gap.
– Rob
Mar 19 at 23:30
1
good idea! Thanks much.
– Pointy
Mar 19 at 23:30
|
show 1 more comment
1
When fully closed there needs to be a bit of a gap, some thickness, otherwise you are pressing a wedge shape. — yes, that is exactly the question. So with thanks for your deeply informative answer, all I'm really looking for is insight into whether there is such a thing as a tortilla press with enough "play" in the hinge to prevent the hinge-end of the tortilla from getting squeezed way too much.
– Pointy
Mar 19 at 19:02
1
A correctly designed press has a gap (offset).
– Rob
Mar 19 at 20:51
1
Awesome, thanks Rob, I'll be hitting the local Fiesta etc. in the next few days :)
– Pointy
Mar 19 at 21:16
1
@Pointy If you are buying used don't get wood since it won't be very easy to clean, with a metal one you will have durability and you can drop a coin between the plates - listen to the coin sliding when it's closed so you know that there is a gap.
– Rob
Mar 19 at 23:30
1
good idea! Thanks much.
– Pointy
Mar 19 at 23:30
1
1
When fully closed there needs to be a bit of a gap, some thickness, otherwise you are pressing a wedge shape. — yes, that is exactly the question. So with thanks for your deeply informative answer, all I'm really looking for is insight into whether there is such a thing as a tortilla press with enough "play" in the hinge to prevent the hinge-end of the tortilla from getting squeezed way too much.
– Pointy
Mar 19 at 19:02
When fully closed there needs to be a bit of a gap, some thickness, otherwise you are pressing a wedge shape. — yes, that is exactly the question. So with thanks for your deeply informative answer, all I'm really looking for is insight into whether there is such a thing as a tortilla press with enough "play" in the hinge to prevent the hinge-end of the tortilla from getting squeezed way too much.
– Pointy
Mar 19 at 19:02
1
1
A correctly designed press has a gap (offset).
– Rob
Mar 19 at 20:51
A correctly designed press has a gap (offset).
– Rob
Mar 19 at 20:51
1
1
Awesome, thanks Rob, I'll be hitting the local Fiesta etc. in the next few days :)
– Pointy
Mar 19 at 21:16
Awesome, thanks Rob, I'll be hitting the local Fiesta etc. in the next few days :)
– Pointy
Mar 19 at 21:16
1
1
@Pointy If you are buying used don't get wood since it won't be very easy to clean, with a metal one you will have durability and you can drop a coin between the plates - listen to the coin sliding when it's closed so you know that there is a gap.
– Rob
Mar 19 at 23:30
@Pointy If you are buying used don't get wood since it won't be very easy to clean, with a metal one you will have durability and you can drop a coin between the plates - listen to the coin sliding when it's closed so you know that there is a gap.
– Rob
Mar 19 at 23:30
1
1
good idea! Thanks much.
– Pointy
Mar 19 at 23:30
good idea! Thanks much.
– Pointy
Mar 19 at 23:30
|
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i have the same issue with mine, and my only work-around is placing my masa ball slightly further away from the hinge side before pressing it. not ideal, and this only works if you are making tortillas that are small-ish in comparison to the size of your press
– canardgras
Mar 19 at 11:37
@canardgras thanks. I'll look around at a couple of local markets and see what I find. The Jauja Cucina Mexicana lady on youtube (highly recommended) uses what looks like an 8" press and doesn't seem to have any issues, so that's thing I'm considering.
– Pointy
Mar 19 at 13:35
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I am not submitting this as an answer as I have never used a tortilla press, but could you flip your tortilla and press it a second time to try to even it out at the hinge ?
– Sarumanatee
Mar 19 at 14:34
@Sarumanatee yes I have a feeling that that's what some people do. Still, with a small press like mine, once you get to the desired thinness on the "fat" end, the other end is too thin. Thank you for thinking about the problem however :)
– Pointy
Mar 19 at 14:47