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Difference between 'dont avoir besoin' and 'en avoir besoin'
Règles pour la structure des phrases — Phrase Structure RulesWhy is “de” used instead of “des” in this statement that begins with “Il y a…”When to use “ce qui” and “ce que” instead of “qui”Difference between The Past Definite, Imperfect, and Past Indefinite tensesWhy is “une culture” frequently followed by plural verbs?Using pronoun phrases with “de” for personThe use of “dont” in “… dont je m'étonne que…”Vous savez qui on attend? Why “qui” and not “que”?Why does “que ça” mean “at it” in this instance?What is the difference between “Ça, c'est ~” and “C'est ~”?
French politician says
C'est de liberté dont notre économie a besoin.
In my textbook I have found this phrase
Tous ceux qui en ont besoin toucheront une bourse.
Why in the second example we use en instead of dont? Merci
grammaire
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French politician says
C'est de liberté dont notre économie a besoin.
In my textbook I have found this phrase
Tous ceux qui en ont besoin toucheront une bourse.
Why in the second example we use en instead of dont? Merci
grammaire
asked Mar 17 at 9:00
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French politician says
C'est de liberté dont notre économie a besoin.
In my textbook I have found this phrase
Tous ceux qui en ont besoin toucheront une bourse.
Why in the second example we use en instead of dont? Merci
grammaire
asked Mar 17 at 9:00
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French politician says
C'est de liberté dont notre économie a besoin.
In my textbook I have found this phrase
Tous ceux qui en ont besoin toucheront une bourse.
Why in the second example we use en instead of dont? Merci
grammaire
grammaire
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Réponse principalement en français accompagnée par la traduction des essentiels en anglais entre parenthèses.
Notre économie a besoin de liberté. (rappel : avoir besoin de)
Dont est un pronom relatif qui remplace de + antécédent dans la subordonnée relative. Ici, dont remplace donc de liberté. (It is a relative pronoun which replaces de + antecedent in the relative subordinate.)
C'est de liberté dont notre économie a besoin.
Autre exemple :
J'ai besoin de ces stylos.
Ce sont ces stylos dont j'ai besoin.
Ici, dont remplace de ce stylos.
La construction avec c'est/ce sont comme ci-dessus s'appelle mise en relief, une tournure grammaticale très importante en français. (The framing device c’est . . . qui/que/dont is very frequently used in spoken and written French to
highlight a particular element. French Grammar in Context, p. 211.)
Concernant la seconde phrase de la question. (Regarding the second question.)
Tous ceux qui ont besoin d'argent/de support financier/etc. (hypothétiquement) toucheront une bourse.
En est ici un pronom personnel complément qui remplace d'argent/de suppport/etc.. (En is here a personal pronoun complement replacing...)
Tous ceux qui en ont besoin toucheront une bourse.
Pour aller plus loin :
https://www.lingoda.com/en/french/learning-material/cefr/B1.2/les-doubles-pronoms-1/download
https://www.btb.termiumplus.gc.ca/tpv2guides/guides/chroniq/index-fra.html?lang=fra&lettr=indx_autr84vWAiHFbX6w&page=9OU4XXgOiRWE.html
http://www.aidenet.eu/grammaire12a.htm
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When dont has a possessive meaning, it can be translated by whose, of which:
La Ville dont le prince est un enfant
The City Whose Prince is a Child
When it has no possessive meaning, it can be translated by that, whom, which or just skipped in English:
C'est le livre dont je t'ai parlé
It's the book (that) I talk you about.
In the first sentence, there is no possessive meaning:
C'est de liberté dont notre économie a besoin.
It is equivalent to the following sentences:
La liberté, c'est ce dont notre économie a besoin.
La liberté, c'est de cela dont notre économie a besoin.
La liberté, c'est de quoi notre économie a besoin.
They can be translated to:
Liberty, this is what our economy is in need of.
or maybe:
Liberty, this is that our economy is in need of.
Literally :
It is (of) liberty that our economy is in need of.
In the second sentence, en is close to the English "it":
Tous ceux qui en ont besoin toucheront une bourse.
means:
Tous ceux qui ont besoin d'une bourse toucheront une bourse
Literally :
All of those who need it will get a scholarship.
While it and that can sometimes be used interchangeably, en and dont do not span the same range of meanings.
answered Mar 17 at 9:36
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You just can't explain grammar though translation to a language that uses a different grammar.
– Stéphane Gimenez♦
Mar 17 at 12:43
@StéphaneGimenez Yes, my initial wording was definitely lacking explanations.
– jlliagre
Mar 17 at 14:13
I don't understand your answer, what doesn't fit at all to translate dont here. (that is much closer in almost every case)
– Teleporting Goat
2 days ago
@TeleportingGoat You are right. What was more there to translate ce than dont in my examples. Answer reworked.
– jlliagre
2 days ago
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Réponse principalement en français accompagnée par la traduction des essentiels en anglais entre parenthèses.
Notre économie a besoin de liberté. (rappel : avoir besoin de)
Dont est un pronom relatif qui remplace de + antécédent dans la subordonnée relative. Ici, dont remplace donc de liberté. (It is a relative pronoun which replaces de + antecedent in the relative subordinate.)
C'est de liberté dont notre économie a besoin.
Autre exemple :
J'ai besoin de ces stylos.
Ce sont ces stylos dont j'ai besoin.
Ici, dont remplace de ce stylos.
La construction avec c'est/ce sont comme ci-dessus s'appelle mise en relief, une tournure grammaticale très importante en français. (The framing device c’est . . . qui/que/dont is very frequently used in spoken and written French to
highlight a particular element. French Grammar in Context, p. 211.)
Concernant la seconde phrase de la question. (Regarding the second question.)
Tous ceux qui ont besoin d'argent/de support financier/etc. (hypothétiquement) toucheront une bourse.
En est ici un pronom personnel complément qui remplace d'argent/de suppport/etc.. (En is here a personal pronoun complement replacing...)
Tous ceux qui en ont besoin toucheront une bourse.
Pour aller plus loin :
https://www.lingoda.com/en/french/learning-material/cefr/B1.2/les-doubles-pronoms-1/download
https://www.btb.termiumplus.gc.ca/tpv2guides/guides/chroniq/index-fra.html?lang=fra&lettr=indx_autr84vWAiHFbX6w&page=9OU4XXgOiRWE.html
http://www.aidenet.eu/grammaire12a.htm
answered Mar 17 at 9:36
DimitrisDimitris
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Réponse principalement en français accompagnée par la traduction des essentiels en anglais entre parenthèses.
Notre économie a besoin de liberté. (rappel : avoir besoin de)
Dont est un pronom relatif qui remplace de + antécédent dans la subordonnée relative. Ici, dont remplace donc de liberté. (It is a relative pronoun which replaces de + antecedent in the relative subordinate.)
C'est de liberté dont notre économie a besoin.
Autre exemple :
J'ai besoin de ces stylos.
Ce sont ces stylos dont j'ai besoin.
Ici, dont remplace de ce stylos.
La construction avec c'est/ce sont comme ci-dessus s'appelle mise en relief, une tournure grammaticale très importante en français. (The framing device c’est . . . qui/que/dont is very frequently used in spoken and written French to
highlight a particular element. French Grammar in Context, p. 211.)
Concernant la seconde phrase de la question. (Regarding the second question.)
Tous ceux qui ont besoin d'argent/de support financier/etc. (hypothétiquement) toucheront une bourse.
En est ici un pronom personnel complément qui remplace d'argent/de suppport/etc.. (En is here a personal pronoun complement replacing...)
Tous ceux qui en ont besoin toucheront une bourse.
Pour aller plus loin :
https://www.lingoda.com/en/french/learning-material/cefr/B1.2/les-doubles-pronoms-1/download
https://www.btb.termiumplus.gc.ca/tpv2guides/guides/chroniq/index-fra.html?lang=fra&lettr=indx_autr84vWAiHFbX6w&page=9OU4XXgOiRWE.html
http://www.aidenet.eu/grammaire12a.htm
answered Mar 17 at 9:36
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Réponse principalement en français accompagnée par la traduction des essentiels en anglais entre parenthèses.
Notre économie a besoin de liberté. (rappel : avoir besoin de)
Dont est un pronom relatif qui remplace de + antécédent dans la subordonnée relative. Ici, dont remplace donc de liberté. (It is a relative pronoun which replaces de + antecedent in the relative subordinate.)
C'est de liberté dont notre économie a besoin.
Autre exemple :
J'ai besoin de ces stylos.
Ce sont ces stylos dont j'ai besoin.
Ici, dont remplace de ce stylos.
La construction avec c'est/ce sont comme ci-dessus s'appelle mise en relief, une tournure grammaticale très importante en français. (The framing device c’est . . . qui/que/dont is very frequently used in spoken and written French to
highlight a particular element. French Grammar in Context, p. 211.)
Concernant la seconde phrase de la question. (Regarding the second question.)
Tous ceux qui ont besoin d'argent/de support financier/etc. (hypothétiquement) toucheront une bourse.
En est ici un pronom personnel complément qui remplace d'argent/de suppport/etc.. (En is here a personal pronoun complement replacing...)
Tous ceux qui en ont besoin toucheront une bourse.
Pour aller plus loin :
https://www.lingoda.com/en/french/learning-material/cefr/B1.2/les-doubles-pronoms-1/download
https://www.btb.termiumplus.gc.ca/tpv2guides/guides/chroniq/index-fra.html?lang=fra&lettr=indx_autr84vWAiHFbX6w&page=9OU4XXgOiRWE.html
http://www.aidenet.eu/grammaire12a.htm
answered Mar 17 at 9:36
DimitrisDimitris
7,8222629
Réponse principalement en français accompagnée par la traduction des essentiels en anglais entre parenthèses.
Notre économie a besoin de liberté. (rappel : avoir besoin de)
Dont est un pronom relatif qui remplace de + antécédent dans la subordonnée relative. Ici, dont remplace donc de liberté. (It is a relative pronoun which replaces de + antecedent in the relative subordinate.)
C'est de liberté dont notre économie a besoin.
Autre exemple :
J'ai besoin de ces stylos.
Ce sont ces stylos dont j'ai besoin.
Ici, dont remplace de ce stylos.
La construction avec c'est/ce sont comme ci-dessus s'appelle mise en relief, une tournure grammaticale très importante en français. (The framing device c’est . . . qui/que/dont is very frequently used in spoken and written French to
highlight a particular element. French Grammar in Context, p. 211.)
Concernant la seconde phrase de la question. (Regarding the second question.)
Tous ceux qui ont besoin d'argent/de support financier/etc. (hypothétiquement) toucheront une bourse.
En est ici un pronom personnel complément qui remplace d'argent/de suppport/etc.. (En is here a personal pronoun complement replacing...)
Tous ceux qui en ont besoin toucheront une bourse.
Pour aller plus loin :
https://www.lingoda.com/en/french/learning-material/cefr/B1.2/les-doubles-pronoms-1/download
https://www.btb.termiumplus.gc.ca/tpv2guides/guides/chroniq/index-fra.html?lang=fra&lettr=indx_autr84vWAiHFbX6w&page=9OU4XXgOiRWE.html
http://www.aidenet.eu/grammaire12a.htm
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When dont has a possessive meaning, it can be translated by whose, of which:
La Ville dont le prince est un enfant
The City Whose Prince is a Child
When it has no possessive meaning, it can be translated by that, whom, which or just skipped in English:
C'est le livre dont je t'ai parlé
It's the book (that) I talk you about.
In the first sentence, there is no possessive meaning:
C'est de liberté dont notre économie a besoin.
It is equivalent to the following sentences:
La liberté, c'est ce dont notre économie a besoin.
La liberté, c'est de cela dont notre économie a besoin.
La liberté, c'est de quoi notre économie a besoin.
They can be translated to:
Liberty, this is what our economy is in need of.
or maybe:
Liberty, this is that our economy is in need of.
Literally :
It is (of) liberty that our economy is in need of.
In the second sentence, en is close to the English "it":
Tous ceux qui en ont besoin toucheront une bourse.
means:
Tous ceux qui ont besoin d'une bourse toucheront une bourse
Literally :
All of those who need it will get a scholarship.
While it and that can sometimes be used interchangeably, en and dont do not span the same range of meanings.
answered Mar 17 at 9:36
jlliagrejlliagre
65.3k244102
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You just can't explain grammar though translation to a language that uses a different grammar.
– Stéphane Gimenez♦
Mar 17 at 12:43
@StéphaneGimenez Yes, my initial wording was definitely lacking explanations.
– jlliagre
Mar 17 at 14:13
I don't understand your answer, what doesn't fit at all to translate dont here. (that is much closer in almost every case)
– Teleporting Goat
2 days ago
@TeleportingGoat You are right. What was more there to translate ce than dont in my examples. Answer reworked.
– jlliagre
2 days ago
add a comment |
When dont has a possessive meaning, it can be translated by whose, of which:
La Ville dont le prince est un enfant
The City Whose Prince is a Child
When it has no possessive meaning, it can be translated by that, whom, which or just skipped in English:
C'est le livre dont je t'ai parlé
It's the book (that) I talk you about.
In the first sentence, there is no possessive meaning:
C'est de liberté dont notre économie a besoin.
It is equivalent to the following sentences:
La liberté, c'est ce dont notre économie a besoin.
La liberté, c'est de cela dont notre économie a besoin.
La liberté, c'est de quoi notre économie a besoin.
They can be translated to:
Liberty, this is what our economy is in need of.
or maybe:
Liberty, this is that our economy is in need of.
Literally :
It is (of) liberty that our economy is in need of.
In the second sentence, en is close to the English "it":
Tous ceux qui en ont besoin toucheront une bourse.
means:
Tous ceux qui ont besoin d'une bourse toucheront une bourse
Literally :
All of those who need it will get a scholarship.
While it and that can sometimes be used interchangeably, en and dont do not span the same range of meanings.
answered Mar 17 at 9:36
jlliagrejlliagre
65.3k244102
2
You just can't explain grammar though translation to a language that uses a different grammar.
– Stéphane Gimenez♦
Mar 17 at 12:43
@StéphaneGimenez Yes, my initial wording was definitely lacking explanations.
– jlliagre
Mar 17 at 14:13
I don't understand your answer, what doesn't fit at all to translate dont here. (that is much closer in almost every case)
– Teleporting Goat
2 days ago
@TeleportingGoat You are right. What was more there to translate ce than dont in my examples. Answer reworked.
– jlliagre
2 days ago
add a comment |
When dont has a possessive meaning, it can be translated by whose, of which:
La Ville dont le prince est un enfant
The City Whose Prince is a Child
When it has no possessive meaning, it can be translated by that, whom, which or just skipped in English:
C'est le livre dont je t'ai parlé
It's the book (that) I talk you about.
In the first sentence, there is no possessive meaning:
C'est de liberté dont notre économie a besoin.
It is equivalent to the following sentences:
La liberté, c'est ce dont notre économie a besoin.
La liberté, c'est de cela dont notre économie a besoin.
La liberté, c'est de quoi notre économie a besoin.
They can be translated to:
Liberty, this is what our economy is in need of.
or maybe:
Liberty, this is that our economy is in need of.
Literally :
It is (of) liberty that our economy is in need of.
In the second sentence, en is close to the English "it":
Tous ceux qui en ont besoin toucheront une bourse.
means:
Tous ceux qui ont besoin d'une bourse toucheront une bourse
Literally :
All of those who need it will get a scholarship.
While it and that can sometimes be used interchangeably, en and dont do not span the same range of meanings.
answered Mar 17 at 9:36
jlliagrejlliagre
65.3k244102
When dont has a possessive meaning, it can be translated by whose, of which:
La Ville dont le prince est un enfant
The City Whose Prince is a Child
When it has no possessive meaning, it can be translated by that, whom, which or just skipped in English:
C'est le livre dont je t'ai parlé
It's the book (that) I talk you about.
In the first sentence, there is no possessive meaning:
C'est de liberté dont notre économie a besoin.
It is equivalent to the following sentences:
La liberté, c'est ce dont notre économie a besoin.
La liberté, c'est de cela dont notre économie a besoin.
La liberté, c'est de quoi notre économie a besoin.
They can be translated to:
Liberty, this is what our economy is in need of.
or maybe:
Liberty, this is that our economy is in need of.
Literally :
It is (of) liberty that our economy is in need of.
In the second sentence, en is close to the English "it":
Tous ceux qui en ont besoin toucheront une bourse.
means:
Tous ceux qui ont besoin d'une bourse toucheront une bourse
Literally :
All of those who need it will get a scholarship.
While it and that can sometimes be used interchangeably, en and dont do not span the same range of meanings.
answered Mar 17 at 9:36
jlliagrejlliagre
65.3k244102
edited 2 days ago
answered Mar 17 at 9:36
jlliagrejlliagre
65.3k244102
answered Mar 17 at 9:36
jlliagrejlliagre
65.3k244102
answered Mar 17 at 9:36
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You just can't explain grammar though translation to a language that uses a different grammar.
– Stéphane Gimenez♦
Mar 17 at 12:43
@StéphaneGimenez Yes, my initial wording was definitely lacking explanations.
– jlliagre
Mar 17 at 14:13
I don't understand your answer, what doesn't fit at all to translate dont here. (that is much closer in almost every case)
– Teleporting Goat
2 days ago
@TeleportingGoat You are right. What was more there to translate ce than dont in my examples. Answer reworked.
– jlliagre
2 days ago
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You just can't explain grammar though translation to a language that uses a different grammar.
– Stéphane Gimenez♦
Mar 17 at 12:43
@StéphaneGimenez Yes, my initial wording was definitely lacking explanations.
– jlliagre
Mar 17 at 14:13
I don't understand your answer, what doesn't fit at all to translate dont here. (that is much closer in almost every case)
– Teleporting Goat
2 days ago
@TeleportingGoat You are right. What was more there to translate ce than dont in my examples. Answer reworked.
– jlliagre
2 days ago
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You just can't explain grammar though translation to a language that uses a different grammar.
– Stéphane Gimenez♦
Mar 17 at 12:43
You just can't explain grammar though translation to a language that uses a different grammar.
– Stéphane Gimenez♦
Mar 17 at 12:43
@StéphaneGimenez Yes, my initial wording was definitely lacking explanations.
– jlliagre
Mar 17 at 14:13
@StéphaneGimenez Yes, my initial wording was definitely lacking explanations.
– jlliagre
Mar 17 at 14:13
I don't understand your answer, what doesn't fit at all to translate dont here. (that is much closer in almost every case)
– Teleporting Goat
2 days ago
I don't understand your answer, what doesn't fit at all to translate dont here. (that is much closer in almost every case)
– Teleporting Goat
2 days ago
@TeleportingGoat You are right. What was more there to translate ce than dont in my examples. Answer reworked.
– jlliagre
2 days ago
@TeleportingGoat You are right. What was more there to translate ce than dont in my examples. Answer reworked.
– jlliagre
2 days ago
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