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There is something I find myself doing often while writing, and I don't even know what to call it, but I would like to know if its good practice. It happens when I'm writing from a third-person perspective. It's where the narrator begins to describe something based not on truth, but on a character's (potentially skewed) perspective. Here's a random example:



There is a peaceful alien race that has never done anything bad to humanity, however John falsely believes that these aliens killed his father, however the reader knows that this is not true, his father's death had nothing to do with the aliens. So the reader knows these aliens are innocent, and when John is saying bad things about them the reader will disagree with him. There are two ways I could narrate this



1: the 'plain way'




John thought to himself 'Those wretched slimy creatures! I hate them!'




or 2 is the way I'm asking about (that I don't really know what to call)




John thought about how much he hated those wretched slimy creatures.




Obviously those 'wretched slimy creatures' are not as bad as John makes them out to be, and the reader and narrator both know this. Is it a good idea to have the narrator describe them as 'slimy wretched creatures' when describing John's opinion of them, or just to use the 'plain way' by not even appearing to adopt John's view and just tell it like it is. Personally I prefer way 2, because it makes it more interesting and less plain, but I don't want it to seem like I'm contradicting myself.










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    How does the reader know that aliens are harmless? Do you have another POV character who provides more "fair and balanced" view?

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  • @Alexander Well, its just a random example, so I haven't really thought that part out, but I'm not using this in any story or anything so it's assumed that if it was a complete work there would be stuff in there that makes it quite obvious. For simplicity sake we are assuming that they are innocent and the reader knows it

    – DJ Spicy Deluxe-Levi
    Mar 19 at 18:32






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    Based on the answers here, it seems like there are a lot of narrator constructs that convey non-factual information. Unreliable narrators are my personal favorite.

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  • You possibly answered yourself here: Is it a good idea to have the narrator describe them as 'slimy wretched creatures' when describing John's opinion of them; if the narrator has an impartial POV, use quotation marks when referring to the aliens the way John would do.

    – Josh Part
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There is something I find myself doing often while writing, and I don't even know what to call it, but I would like to know if its good practice. It happens when I'm writing from a third-person perspective. It's where the narrator begins to describe something based not on truth, but on a character's (potentially skewed) perspective. Here's a random example:



There is a peaceful alien race that has never done anything bad to humanity, however John falsely believes that these aliens killed his father, however the reader knows that this is not true, his father's death had nothing to do with the aliens. So the reader knows these aliens are innocent, and when John is saying bad things about them the reader will disagree with him. There are two ways I could narrate this



1: the 'plain way'




John thought to himself 'Those wretched slimy creatures! I hate them!'




or 2 is the way I'm asking about (that I don't really know what to call)




John thought about how much he hated those wretched slimy creatures.




Obviously those 'wretched slimy creatures' are not as bad as John makes them out to be, and the reader and narrator both know this. Is it a good idea to have the narrator describe them as 'slimy wretched creatures' when describing John's opinion of them, or just to use the 'plain way' by not even appearing to adopt John's view and just tell it like it is. Personally I prefer way 2, because it makes it more interesting and less plain, but I don't want it to seem like I'm contradicting myself.










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    How does the reader know that aliens are harmless? Do you have another POV character who provides more "fair and balanced" view?

    – Alexander
    Mar 18 at 21:37











  • @Alexander Well, its just a random example, so I haven't really thought that part out, but I'm not using this in any story or anything so it's assumed that if it was a complete work there would be stuff in there that makes it quite obvious. For simplicity sake we are assuming that they are innocent and the reader knows it

    – DJ Spicy Deluxe-Levi
    Mar 19 at 18:32






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    Based on the answers here, it seems like there are a lot of narrator constructs that convey non-factual information. Unreliable narrators are my personal favorite.

    – mRotten
    Mar 19 at 22:03












  • You possibly answered yourself here: Is it a good idea to have the narrator describe them as 'slimy wretched creatures' when describing John's opinion of them; if the narrator has an impartial POV, use quotation marks when referring to the aliens the way John would do.

    – Josh Part
    Mar 20 at 17:37













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There is something I find myself doing often while writing, and I don't even know what to call it, but I would like to know if its good practice. It happens when I'm writing from a third-person perspective. It's where the narrator begins to describe something based not on truth, but on a character's (potentially skewed) perspective. Here's a random example:



There is a peaceful alien race that has never done anything bad to humanity, however John falsely believes that these aliens killed his father, however the reader knows that this is not true, his father's death had nothing to do with the aliens. So the reader knows these aliens are innocent, and when John is saying bad things about them the reader will disagree with him. There are two ways I could narrate this



1: the 'plain way'




John thought to himself 'Those wretched slimy creatures! I hate them!'




or 2 is the way I'm asking about (that I don't really know what to call)




John thought about how much he hated those wretched slimy creatures.




Obviously those 'wretched slimy creatures' are not as bad as John makes them out to be, and the reader and narrator both know this. Is it a good idea to have the narrator describe them as 'slimy wretched creatures' when describing John's opinion of them, or just to use the 'plain way' by not even appearing to adopt John's view and just tell it like it is. Personally I prefer way 2, because it makes it more interesting and less plain, but I don't want it to seem like I'm contradicting myself.










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There is something I find myself doing often while writing, and I don't even know what to call it, but I would like to know if its good practice. It happens when I'm writing from a third-person perspective. It's where the narrator begins to describe something based not on truth, but on a character's (potentially skewed) perspective. Here's a random example:



There is a peaceful alien race that has never done anything bad to humanity, however John falsely believes that these aliens killed his father, however the reader knows that this is not true, his father's death had nothing to do with the aliens. So the reader knows these aliens are innocent, and when John is saying bad things about them the reader will disagree with him. There are two ways I could narrate this



1: the 'plain way'




John thought to himself 'Those wretched slimy creatures! I hate them!'




or 2 is the way I'm asking about (that I don't really know what to call)




John thought about how much he hated those wretched slimy creatures.




Obviously those 'wretched slimy creatures' are not as bad as John makes them out to be, and the reader and narrator both know this. Is it a good idea to have the narrator describe them as 'slimy wretched creatures' when describing John's opinion of them, or just to use the 'plain way' by not even appearing to adopt John's view and just tell it like it is. Personally I prefer way 2, because it makes it more interesting and less plain, but I don't want it to seem like I'm contradicting myself.







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    How does the reader know that aliens are harmless? Do you have another POV character who provides more "fair and balanced" view?

    – Alexander
    Mar 18 at 21:37











  • @Alexander Well, its just a random example, so I haven't really thought that part out, but I'm not using this in any story or anything so it's assumed that if it was a complete work there would be stuff in there that makes it quite obvious. For simplicity sake we are assuming that they are innocent and the reader knows it

    – DJ Spicy Deluxe-Levi
    Mar 19 at 18:32






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    Based on the answers here, it seems like there are a lot of narrator constructs that convey non-factual information. Unreliable narrators are my personal favorite.

    – mRotten
    Mar 19 at 22:03












  • You possibly answered yourself here: Is it a good idea to have the narrator describe them as 'slimy wretched creatures' when describing John's opinion of them; if the narrator has an impartial POV, use quotation marks when referring to the aliens the way John would do.

    – Josh Part
    Mar 20 at 17:37












  • 2





    How does the reader know that aliens are harmless? Do you have another POV character who provides more "fair and balanced" view?

    – Alexander
    Mar 18 at 21:37











  • @Alexander Well, its just a random example, so I haven't really thought that part out, but I'm not using this in any story or anything so it's assumed that if it was a complete work there would be stuff in there that makes it quite obvious. For simplicity sake we are assuming that they are innocent and the reader knows it

    – DJ Spicy Deluxe-Levi
    Mar 19 at 18:32






  • 1





    Based on the answers here, it seems like there are a lot of narrator constructs that convey non-factual information. Unreliable narrators are my personal favorite.

    – mRotten
    Mar 19 at 22:03












  • You possibly answered yourself here: Is it a good idea to have the narrator describe them as 'slimy wretched creatures' when describing John's opinion of them; if the narrator has an impartial POV, use quotation marks when referring to the aliens the way John would do.

    – Josh Part
    Mar 20 at 17:37







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How does the reader know that aliens are harmless? Do you have another POV character who provides more "fair and balanced" view?

– Alexander
Mar 18 at 21:37





How does the reader know that aliens are harmless? Do you have another POV character who provides more "fair and balanced" view?

– Alexander
Mar 18 at 21:37













@Alexander Well, its just a random example, so I haven't really thought that part out, but I'm not using this in any story or anything so it's assumed that if it was a complete work there would be stuff in there that makes it quite obvious. For simplicity sake we are assuming that they are innocent and the reader knows it

– DJ Spicy Deluxe-Levi
Mar 19 at 18:32





@Alexander Well, its just a random example, so I haven't really thought that part out, but I'm not using this in any story or anything so it's assumed that if it was a complete work there would be stuff in there that makes it quite obvious. For simplicity sake we are assuming that they are innocent and the reader knows it

– DJ Spicy Deluxe-Levi
Mar 19 at 18:32




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Based on the answers here, it seems like there are a lot of narrator constructs that convey non-factual information. Unreliable narrators are my personal favorite.

– mRotten
Mar 19 at 22:03






Based on the answers here, it seems like there are a lot of narrator constructs that convey non-factual information. Unreliable narrators are my personal favorite.

– mRotten
Mar 19 at 22:03














You possibly answered yourself here: Is it a good idea to have the narrator describe them as 'slimy wretched creatures' when describing John's opinion of them; if the narrator has an impartial POV, use quotation marks when referring to the aliens the way John would do.

– Josh Part
Mar 20 at 17:37





You possibly answered yourself here: Is it a good idea to have the narrator describe them as 'slimy wretched creatures' when describing John's opinion of them; if the narrator has an impartial POV, use quotation marks when referring to the aliens the way John would do.

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This depends on the narration. If you have a third person omniscient narrator then they usually would describe things in a fair and even way. Most modern writing though does not use an omniscient narrator. Most writing is done in third person limited.



In third person limited the camera stays consistently over a specific character's shoulder for often at least a chapter if not the entire novel. In this case the narrator should absolutely take on the characteristics of the character being followed by the camera. All descriptions should be done through the lens of that character. All his knowledge and prejudices should be applied to descriptions. If it a character would not know what something is, the narrator should describe it in that way. Explain how the character sees the object, not what it is by name. If the character has beliefs then the narrator should have the same beliefs about the concept.

This is often a great tool if the camera ever moves to another character. The same things can suddenly be described in completely different ways. This can give the reader a great depth into not only your characters but also the setting.






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    This answer seems to gloss over the flexibility of how a narrator can be designed. Nothing stops a 'close' limited third person narrator from disliking the character they're following. Such a narrator, even a first person narrator, has the ability to outright lie about what is going on, or to simply be wrong without knowing.

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  • @TheLuckless can you point me to a popular example of such unreliable narration that's not written in first person, and the lies are not the lies of the pov character? Or where the third person limited does not have access to the thoughts of the pov? I try to avoid answers of "do whatever you want" When people ask these kinds of questions they tend to look for conventions of literature.

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    @Andrey The Stanley Parable? Although, as "Interactive Fiction" it may not count.

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  • @Andrey: I can’t think of an example with outright lies from a thirson-person narrative (though I’m sure it’s been done), but wetcircuit’s answer gives examples of how subjective viewpoints can be very smoothly blended into a third person narration, giving the effect of an unreliable narrator, from no less a writer than Jane Austen.

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Jane Austen is the master of Free Indirect Speech, a 3rd-person style where the narrative voice becomes the direct thoughts of a character.



In your example it would work something like:




John hated them. Slimy, wretched creatures!




It's an immediate, emotional style, that bypasses the "He thought to himself…" and states the character's opinion as objective fact when it clearly isn't.



From wikipedia: "What distinguishes free indirect speech from normal indirect speech is the lack of an introductory expression such as "He said" or "he thought"."




In practice, Austen changes the matter-of-fact "truths" from her narrator so often and quickly that the reader is always aware which character has taken over the story. Their emotional state colors the world that is being described in ways that aren't possible or contradictory.



It's not an unreliable narrator so much as a sympathetic narrator caught up in the emotions of the characters.



For example in Emma:




Emma’s spirits were mounted quite up to happiness; every thing wore a different air; James and his horses seemed not half so sluggish as before.




Austen has simple plots but complex characters who are opinionated on just about everything. Her style is usually interpreted as satire, because her characters are generally so opinionated that they get themselves in trouble especially when the characters are naive or plain wrong – however the intimacy of the Free Indirect Speech makes even unlikeable characters sympathetic to the reader. We see their flaws, but we also hear them in their own words, as if directly out of their heads.



This essay on Medium goes into more examples how Austen undermines her own narrator to signal the bias to her readers.






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This is called "close third-person" POV. It's kind of a hybrid where you present the world in the third-person, but from the perspective of a given character (as you would do in first person). It's a common technique, and one that is perfectly fine to use. The major warning is that you need to be cautious if you are switching back and forth between this and third-person omniscient, or if you switch POV characters, because either switch has the potential to confuse your readers.






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    I think I can see what you are asking but I'm not sure.



    Narrators can take on the bias, prejudice or thoughts of a character. The most obvious example I can think of is a poem called 'Southern Cop'. That doesn't mean that the writer holds those views.



    Direct speech/thought has a different impact to indirect. I think the first version is much more vivid, with one little correction: you can't really think to anyone other than yourself.






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      While narrating an incident, we can use the 'Plain way' as you mentioned. But what if the readers want to know about the thoughts going inside a person about a specific incident or person, in this conditions, your story should be able to convey the thought process rather than direct speech about thoughts as it may or may not have the impact we want our readers to feel. In some case, it might turn out to be a negative effect.






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        As an author, if you don't let your reader feel a character's feelings when it would be appropriate, or shield or "mute" the feelings from the reader, you are somewhat betraying your character, your story, and letting down your reader.



        It could be that to you, the omniscient author, they are "incorrect" to you or you "know" they are "wrong", or because you don't like those feelings or you don't want to seem like you hold those feelings yourself. But if you are portraying a character, then within that story, how they feel is how they feel. They could be mistaken about something, over reacting, numbed, or have horrible beliefs and feelings (racist/sexist etc). But if that is how they feel, that is how they feel.



        That's not a rigid rule, authors often break any rule you can name. But generally it seems to be a good way to think about it, unless you deliberately decide not to.



        So if John thinks someone did a bad thing and is angry, but we know he's wrong, or Robert is a sexist racist narrow minded abuser who thinks he knows best, or Claire has irrational emotional reactions to aliens and thinks they are slimy, the best starting point is to let the reader feel that and share it, not to half-hide it from them because it's "not nice". The reader will feel that, and it will make the character feel a bit untrue, because how you describe the character no longer matches what you let them feel and share of the character.



        How to handle it?



        There are many questions about "what if my character is a racist/sexist", and the same kind of answer will apply to your character as well. You can show the reader what is happening and why, which may help.




        John looked at the aliens, unable to hold back a small shudder inside. Horrible, horrible, and slimy! The memory of his father came to his mind, as it always did, the images he had never seen, but imagined - his father torn and twisted, the gloating slimy monstrous creatures kicking his bloody corpse, and laughing at his pain. One day they will pay! he promised himself silently. One day...




        This doesn't just describe John's view (like your 1st idea) or add emotional distance from a deep emotion (like your 2nd idea). It actually puts the reader in John's mind -"Show, don't tell".






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          This depends on the narration. If you have a third person omniscient narrator then they usually would describe things in a fair and even way. Most modern writing though does not use an omniscient narrator. Most writing is done in third person limited.



          In third person limited the camera stays consistently over a specific character's shoulder for often at least a chapter if not the entire novel. In this case the narrator should absolutely take on the characteristics of the character being followed by the camera. All descriptions should be done through the lens of that character. All his knowledge and prejudices should be applied to descriptions. If it a character would not know what something is, the narrator should describe it in that way. Explain how the character sees the object, not what it is by name. If the character has beliefs then the narrator should have the same beliefs about the concept.

          This is often a great tool if the camera ever moves to another character. The same things can suddenly be described in completely different ways. This can give the reader a great depth into not only your characters but also the setting.






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            This answer seems to gloss over the flexibility of how a narrator can be designed. Nothing stops a 'close' limited third person narrator from disliking the character they're following. Such a narrator, even a first person narrator, has the ability to outright lie about what is going on, or to simply be wrong without knowing.

            – TheLuckless
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          • @TheLuckless can you point me to a popular example of such unreliable narration that's not written in first person, and the lies are not the lies of the pov character? Or where the third person limited does not have access to the thoughts of the pov? I try to avoid answers of "do whatever you want" When people ask these kinds of questions they tend to look for conventions of literature.

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            @Andrey The Stanley Parable? Although, as "Interactive Fiction" it may not count.

            – Chronocidal
            Mar 19 at 22:32











          • @Andrey: I can’t think of an example with outright lies from a thirson-person narrative (though I’m sure it’s been done), but wetcircuit’s answer gives examples of how subjective viewpoints can be very smoothly blended into a third person narration, giving the effect of an unreliable narrator, from no less a writer than Jane Austen.

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          • @Andrey Orwell’s 1984.

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          This depends on the narration. If you have a third person omniscient narrator then they usually would describe things in a fair and even way. Most modern writing though does not use an omniscient narrator. Most writing is done in third person limited.



          In third person limited the camera stays consistently over a specific character's shoulder for often at least a chapter if not the entire novel. In this case the narrator should absolutely take on the characteristics of the character being followed by the camera. All descriptions should be done through the lens of that character. All his knowledge and prejudices should be applied to descriptions. If it a character would not know what something is, the narrator should describe it in that way. Explain how the character sees the object, not what it is by name. If the character has beliefs then the narrator should have the same beliefs about the concept.

          This is often a great tool if the camera ever moves to another character. The same things can suddenly be described in completely different ways. This can give the reader a great depth into not only your characters but also the setting.






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          • 2





            This answer seems to gloss over the flexibility of how a narrator can be designed. Nothing stops a 'close' limited third person narrator from disliking the character they're following. Such a narrator, even a first person narrator, has the ability to outright lie about what is going on, or to simply be wrong without knowing.

            – TheLuckless
            Mar 19 at 17:56











          • @TheLuckless can you point me to a popular example of such unreliable narration that's not written in first person, and the lies are not the lies of the pov character? Or where the third person limited does not have access to the thoughts of the pov? I try to avoid answers of "do whatever you want" When people ask these kinds of questions they tend to look for conventions of literature.

            – Andrey
            Mar 19 at 20:41






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            @Andrey The Stanley Parable? Although, as "Interactive Fiction" it may not count.

            – Chronocidal
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          • @Andrey: I can’t think of an example with outright lies from a thirson-person narrative (though I’m sure it’s been done), but wetcircuit’s answer gives examples of how subjective viewpoints can be very smoothly blended into a third person narration, giving the effect of an unreliable narrator, from no less a writer than Jane Austen.

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          • @Andrey Orwell’s 1984.

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          This depends on the narration. If you have a third person omniscient narrator then they usually would describe things in a fair and even way. Most modern writing though does not use an omniscient narrator. Most writing is done in third person limited.



          In third person limited the camera stays consistently over a specific character's shoulder for often at least a chapter if not the entire novel. In this case the narrator should absolutely take on the characteristics of the character being followed by the camera. All descriptions should be done through the lens of that character. All his knowledge and prejudices should be applied to descriptions. If it a character would not know what something is, the narrator should describe it in that way. Explain how the character sees the object, not what it is by name. If the character has beliefs then the narrator should have the same beliefs about the concept.

          This is often a great tool if the camera ever moves to another character. The same things can suddenly be described in completely different ways. This can give the reader a great depth into not only your characters but also the setting.






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          This depends on the narration. If you have a third person omniscient narrator then they usually would describe things in a fair and even way. Most modern writing though does not use an omniscient narrator. Most writing is done in third person limited.



          In third person limited the camera stays consistently over a specific character's shoulder for often at least a chapter if not the entire novel. In this case the narrator should absolutely take on the characteristics of the character being followed by the camera. All descriptions should be done through the lens of that character. All his knowledge and prejudices should be applied to descriptions. If it a character would not know what something is, the narrator should describe it in that way. Explain how the character sees the object, not what it is by name. If the character has beliefs then the narrator should have the same beliefs about the concept.

          This is often a great tool if the camera ever moves to another character. The same things can suddenly be described in completely different ways. This can give the reader a great depth into not only your characters but also the setting.







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            This answer seems to gloss over the flexibility of how a narrator can be designed. Nothing stops a 'close' limited third person narrator from disliking the character they're following. Such a narrator, even a first person narrator, has the ability to outright lie about what is going on, or to simply be wrong without knowing.

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          • @TheLuckless can you point me to a popular example of such unreliable narration that's not written in first person, and the lies are not the lies of the pov character? Or where the third person limited does not have access to the thoughts of the pov? I try to avoid answers of "do whatever you want" When people ask these kinds of questions they tend to look for conventions of literature.

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            @Andrey The Stanley Parable? Although, as "Interactive Fiction" it may not count.

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          • @Andrey: I can’t think of an example with outright lies from a thirson-person narrative (though I’m sure it’s been done), but wetcircuit’s answer gives examples of how subjective viewpoints can be very smoothly blended into a third person narration, giving the effect of an unreliable narrator, from no less a writer than Jane Austen.

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          • @Andrey Orwell’s 1984.

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            This answer seems to gloss over the flexibility of how a narrator can be designed. Nothing stops a 'close' limited third person narrator from disliking the character they're following. Such a narrator, even a first person narrator, has the ability to outright lie about what is going on, or to simply be wrong without knowing.

            – TheLuckless
            Mar 19 at 17:56











          • @TheLuckless can you point me to a popular example of such unreliable narration that's not written in first person, and the lies are not the lies of the pov character? Or where the third person limited does not have access to the thoughts of the pov? I try to avoid answers of "do whatever you want" When people ask these kinds of questions they tend to look for conventions of literature.

            – Andrey
            Mar 19 at 20:41






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            @Andrey The Stanley Parable? Although, as "Interactive Fiction" it may not count.

            – Chronocidal
            Mar 19 at 22:32











          • @Andrey: I can’t think of an example with outright lies from a thirson-person narrative (though I’m sure it’s been done), but wetcircuit’s answer gives examples of how subjective viewpoints can be very smoothly blended into a third person narration, giving the effect of an unreliable narrator, from no less a writer than Jane Austen.

            – PLL
            Mar 20 at 16:13











          • @Andrey Orwell’s 1984.

            – Konrad Rudolph
            Mar 20 at 17:27







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          This answer seems to gloss over the flexibility of how a narrator can be designed. Nothing stops a 'close' limited third person narrator from disliking the character they're following. Such a narrator, even a first person narrator, has the ability to outright lie about what is going on, or to simply be wrong without knowing.

          – TheLuckless
          Mar 19 at 17:56





          This answer seems to gloss over the flexibility of how a narrator can be designed. Nothing stops a 'close' limited third person narrator from disliking the character they're following. Such a narrator, even a first person narrator, has the ability to outright lie about what is going on, or to simply be wrong without knowing.

          – TheLuckless
          Mar 19 at 17:56













          @TheLuckless can you point me to a popular example of such unreliable narration that's not written in first person, and the lies are not the lies of the pov character? Or where the third person limited does not have access to the thoughts of the pov? I try to avoid answers of "do whatever you want" When people ask these kinds of questions they tend to look for conventions of literature.

          – Andrey
          Mar 19 at 20:41





          @TheLuckless can you point me to a popular example of such unreliable narration that's not written in first person, and the lies are not the lies of the pov character? Or where the third person limited does not have access to the thoughts of the pov? I try to avoid answers of "do whatever you want" When people ask these kinds of questions they tend to look for conventions of literature.

          – Andrey
          Mar 19 at 20:41




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          @Andrey The Stanley Parable? Although, as "Interactive Fiction" it may not count.

          – Chronocidal
          Mar 19 at 22:32





          @Andrey The Stanley Parable? Although, as "Interactive Fiction" it may not count.

          – Chronocidal
          Mar 19 at 22:32













          @Andrey: I can’t think of an example with outright lies from a thirson-person narrative (though I’m sure it’s been done), but wetcircuit’s answer gives examples of how subjective viewpoints can be very smoothly blended into a third person narration, giving the effect of an unreliable narrator, from no less a writer than Jane Austen.

          – PLL
          Mar 20 at 16:13





          @Andrey: I can’t think of an example with outright lies from a thirson-person narrative (though I’m sure it’s been done), but wetcircuit’s answer gives examples of how subjective viewpoints can be very smoothly blended into a third person narration, giving the effect of an unreliable narrator, from no less a writer than Jane Austen.

          – PLL
          Mar 20 at 16:13













          @Andrey Orwell’s 1984.

          – Konrad Rudolph
          Mar 20 at 17:27





          @Andrey Orwell’s 1984.

          – Konrad Rudolph
          Mar 20 at 17:27











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          Jane Austen is the master of Free Indirect Speech, a 3rd-person style where the narrative voice becomes the direct thoughts of a character.



          In your example it would work something like:




          John hated them. Slimy, wretched creatures!




          It's an immediate, emotional style, that bypasses the "He thought to himself…" and states the character's opinion as objective fact when it clearly isn't.



          From wikipedia: "What distinguishes free indirect speech from normal indirect speech is the lack of an introductory expression such as "He said" or "he thought"."




          In practice, Austen changes the matter-of-fact "truths" from her narrator so often and quickly that the reader is always aware which character has taken over the story. Their emotional state colors the world that is being described in ways that aren't possible or contradictory.



          It's not an unreliable narrator so much as a sympathetic narrator caught up in the emotions of the characters.



          For example in Emma:




          Emma’s spirits were mounted quite up to happiness; every thing wore a different air; James and his horses seemed not half so sluggish as before.




          Austen has simple plots but complex characters who are opinionated on just about everything. Her style is usually interpreted as satire, because her characters are generally so opinionated that they get themselves in trouble especially when the characters are naive or plain wrong – however the intimacy of the Free Indirect Speech makes even unlikeable characters sympathetic to the reader. We see their flaws, but we also hear them in their own words, as if directly out of their heads.



          This essay on Medium goes into more examples how Austen undermines her own narrator to signal the bias to her readers.






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          Jane Austen is the master of Free Indirect Speech, a 3rd-person style where the narrative voice becomes the direct thoughts of a character.



          In your example it would work something like:




          John hated them. Slimy, wretched creatures!




          It's an immediate, emotional style, that bypasses the "He thought to himself…" and states the character's opinion as objective fact when it clearly isn't.



          From wikipedia: "What distinguishes free indirect speech from normal indirect speech is the lack of an introductory expression such as "He said" or "he thought"."




          In practice, Austen changes the matter-of-fact "truths" from her narrator so often and quickly that the reader is always aware which character has taken over the story. Their emotional state colors the world that is being described in ways that aren't possible or contradictory.



          It's not an unreliable narrator so much as a sympathetic narrator caught up in the emotions of the characters.



          For example in Emma:




          Emma’s spirits were mounted quite up to happiness; every thing wore a different air; James and his horses seemed not half so sluggish as before.




          Austen has simple plots but complex characters who are opinionated on just about everything. Her style is usually interpreted as satire, because her characters are generally so opinionated that they get themselves in trouble especially when the characters are naive or plain wrong – however the intimacy of the Free Indirect Speech makes even unlikeable characters sympathetic to the reader. We see their flaws, but we also hear them in their own words, as if directly out of their heads.



          This essay on Medium goes into more examples how Austen undermines her own narrator to signal the bias to her readers.






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          • Thank you @eyeballfrog!

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          Jane Austen is the master of Free Indirect Speech, a 3rd-person style where the narrative voice becomes the direct thoughts of a character.



          In your example it would work something like:




          John hated them. Slimy, wretched creatures!




          It's an immediate, emotional style, that bypasses the "He thought to himself…" and states the character's opinion as objective fact when it clearly isn't.



          From wikipedia: "What distinguishes free indirect speech from normal indirect speech is the lack of an introductory expression such as "He said" or "he thought"."




          In practice, Austen changes the matter-of-fact "truths" from her narrator so often and quickly that the reader is always aware which character has taken over the story. Their emotional state colors the world that is being described in ways that aren't possible or contradictory.



          It's not an unreliable narrator so much as a sympathetic narrator caught up in the emotions of the characters.



          For example in Emma:




          Emma’s spirits were mounted quite up to happiness; every thing wore a different air; James and his horses seemed not half so sluggish as before.




          Austen has simple plots but complex characters who are opinionated on just about everything. Her style is usually interpreted as satire, because her characters are generally so opinionated that they get themselves in trouble especially when the characters are naive or plain wrong – however the intimacy of the Free Indirect Speech makes even unlikeable characters sympathetic to the reader. We see their flaws, but we also hear them in their own words, as if directly out of their heads.



          This essay on Medium goes into more examples how Austen undermines her own narrator to signal the bias to her readers.






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          Jane Austen is the master of Free Indirect Speech, a 3rd-person style where the narrative voice becomes the direct thoughts of a character.



          In your example it would work something like:




          John hated them. Slimy, wretched creatures!




          It's an immediate, emotional style, that bypasses the "He thought to himself…" and states the character's opinion as objective fact when it clearly isn't.



          From wikipedia: "What distinguishes free indirect speech from normal indirect speech is the lack of an introductory expression such as "He said" or "he thought"."




          In practice, Austen changes the matter-of-fact "truths" from her narrator so often and quickly that the reader is always aware which character has taken over the story. Their emotional state colors the world that is being described in ways that aren't possible or contradictory.



          It's not an unreliable narrator so much as a sympathetic narrator caught up in the emotions of the characters.



          For example in Emma:




          Emma’s spirits were mounted quite up to happiness; every thing wore a different air; James and his horses seemed not half so sluggish as before.




          Austen has simple plots but complex characters who are opinionated on just about everything. Her style is usually interpreted as satire, because her characters are generally so opinionated that they get themselves in trouble especially when the characters are naive or plain wrong – however the intimacy of the Free Indirect Speech makes even unlikeable characters sympathetic to the reader. We see their flaws, but we also hear them in their own words, as if directly out of their heads.



          This essay on Medium goes into more examples how Austen undermines her own narrator to signal the bias to her readers.







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          • Thank you @eyeballfrog!

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          Thank you @eyeballfrog!

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          Thank you @eyeballfrog!

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          This is called "close third-person" POV. It's kind of a hybrid where you present the world in the third-person, but from the perspective of a given character (as you would do in first person). It's a common technique, and one that is perfectly fine to use. The major warning is that you need to be cautious if you are switching back and forth between this and third-person omniscient, or if you switch POV characters, because either switch has the potential to confuse your readers.






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            This is called "close third-person" POV. It's kind of a hybrid where you present the world in the third-person, but from the perspective of a given character (as you would do in first person). It's a common technique, and one that is perfectly fine to use. The major warning is that you need to be cautious if you are switching back and forth between this and third-person omniscient, or if you switch POV characters, because either switch has the potential to confuse your readers.






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              This is called "close third-person" POV. It's kind of a hybrid where you present the world in the third-person, but from the perspective of a given character (as you would do in first person). It's a common technique, and one that is perfectly fine to use. The major warning is that you need to be cautious if you are switching back and forth between this and third-person omniscient, or if you switch POV characters, because either switch has the potential to confuse your readers.






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              This is called "close third-person" POV. It's kind of a hybrid where you present the world in the third-person, but from the perspective of a given character (as you would do in first person). It's a common technique, and one that is perfectly fine to use. The major warning is that you need to be cautious if you are switching back and forth between this and third-person omniscient, or if you switch POV characters, because either switch has the potential to confuse your readers.







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                  I think I can see what you are asking but I'm not sure.



                  Narrators can take on the bias, prejudice or thoughts of a character. The most obvious example I can think of is a poem called 'Southern Cop'. That doesn't mean that the writer holds those views.



                  Direct speech/thought has a different impact to indirect. I think the first version is much more vivid, with one little correction: you can't really think to anyone other than yourself.






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                    I think I can see what you are asking but I'm not sure.



                    Narrators can take on the bias, prejudice or thoughts of a character. The most obvious example I can think of is a poem called 'Southern Cop'. That doesn't mean that the writer holds those views.



                    Direct speech/thought has a different impact to indirect. I think the first version is much more vivid, with one little correction: you can't really think to anyone other than yourself.






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                      I think I can see what you are asking but I'm not sure.



                      Narrators can take on the bias, prejudice or thoughts of a character. The most obvious example I can think of is a poem called 'Southern Cop'. That doesn't mean that the writer holds those views.



                      Direct speech/thought has a different impact to indirect. I think the first version is much more vivid, with one little correction: you can't really think to anyone other than yourself.






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                      I think I can see what you are asking but I'm not sure.



                      Narrators can take on the bias, prejudice or thoughts of a character. The most obvious example I can think of is a poem called 'Southern Cop'. That doesn't mean that the writer holds those views.



                      Direct speech/thought has a different impact to indirect. I think the first version is much more vivid, with one little correction: you can't really think to anyone other than yourself.







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                          While narrating an incident, we can use the 'Plain way' as you mentioned. But what if the readers want to know about the thoughts going inside a person about a specific incident or person, in this conditions, your story should be able to convey the thought process rather than direct speech about thoughts as it may or may not have the impact we want our readers to feel. In some case, it might turn out to be a negative effect.






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                            While narrating an incident, we can use the 'Plain way' as you mentioned. But what if the readers want to know about the thoughts going inside a person about a specific incident or person, in this conditions, your story should be able to convey the thought process rather than direct speech about thoughts as it may or may not have the impact we want our readers to feel. In some case, it might turn out to be a negative effect.






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                              While narrating an incident, we can use the 'Plain way' as you mentioned. But what if the readers want to know about the thoughts going inside a person about a specific incident or person, in this conditions, your story should be able to convey the thought process rather than direct speech about thoughts as it may or may not have the impact we want our readers to feel. In some case, it might turn out to be a negative effect.






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                              While narrating an incident, we can use the 'Plain way' as you mentioned. But what if the readers want to know about the thoughts going inside a person about a specific incident or person, in this conditions, your story should be able to convey the thought process rather than direct speech about thoughts as it may or may not have the impact we want our readers to feel. In some case, it might turn out to be a negative effect.







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                                  As an author, if you don't let your reader feel a character's feelings when it would be appropriate, or shield or "mute" the feelings from the reader, you are somewhat betraying your character, your story, and letting down your reader.



                                  It could be that to you, the omniscient author, they are "incorrect" to you or you "know" they are "wrong", or because you don't like those feelings or you don't want to seem like you hold those feelings yourself. But if you are portraying a character, then within that story, how they feel is how they feel. They could be mistaken about something, over reacting, numbed, or have horrible beliefs and feelings (racist/sexist etc). But if that is how they feel, that is how they feel.



                                  That's not a rigid rule, authors often break any rule you can name. But generally it seems to be a good way to think about it, unless you deliberately decide not to.



                                  So if John thinks someone did a bad thing and is angry, but we know he's wrong, or Robert is a sexist racist narrow minded abuser who thinks he knows best, or Claire has irrational emotional reactions to aliens and thinks they are slimy, the best starting point is to let the reader feel that and share it, not to half-hide it from them because it's "not nice". The reader will feel that, and it will make the character feel a bit untrue, because how you describe the character no longer matches what you let them feel and share of the character.



                                  How to handle it?



                                  There are many questions about "what if my character is a racist/sexist", and the same kind of answer will apply to your character as well. You can show the reader what is happening and why, which may help.




                                  John looked at the aliens, unable to hold back a small shudder inside. Horrible, horrible, and slimy! The memory of his father came to his mind, as it always did, the images he had never seen, but imagined - his father torn and twisted, the gloating slimy monstrous creatures kicking his bloody corpse, and laughing at his pain. One day they will pay! he promised himself silently. One day...




                                  This doesn't just describe John's view (like your 1st idea) or add emotional distance from a deep emotion (like your 2nd idea). It actually puts the reader in John's mind -"Show, don't tell".






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                                    As an author, if you don't let your reader feel a character's feelings when it would be appropriate, or shield or "mute" the feelings from the reader, you are somewhat betraying your character, your story, and letting down your reader.



                                    It could be that to you, the omniscient author, they are "incorrect" to you or you "know" they are "wrong", or because you don't like those feelings or you don't want to seem like you hold those feelings yourself. But if you are portraying a character, then within that story, how they feel is how they feel. They could be mistaken about something, over reacting, numbed, or have horrible beliefs and feelings (racist/sexist etc). But if that is how they feel, that is how they feel.



                                    That's not a rigid rule, authors often break any rule you can name. But generally it seems to be a good way to think about it, unless you deliberately decide not to.



                                    So if John thinks someone did a bad thing and is angry, but we know he's wrong, or Robert is a sexist racist narrow minded abuser who thinks he knows best, or Claire has irrational emotional reactions to aliens and thinks they are slimy, the best starting point is to let the reader feel that and share it, not to half-hide it from them because it's "not nice". The reader will feel that, and it will make the character feel a bit untrue, because how you describe the character no longer matches what you let them feel and share of the character.



                                    How to handle it?



                                    There are many questions about "what if my character is a racist/sexist", and the same kind of answer will apply to your character as well. You can show the reader what is happening and why, which may help.




                                    John looked at the aliens, unable to hold back a small shudder inside. Horrible, horrible, and slimy! The memory of his father came to his mind, as it always did, the images he had never seen, but imagined - his father torn and twisted, the gloating slimy monstrous creatures kicking his bloody corpse, and laughing at his pain. One day they will pay! he promised himself silently. One day...




                                    This doesn't just describe John's view (like your 1st idea) or add emotional distance from a deep emotion (like your 2nd idea). It actually puts the reader in John's mind -"Show, don't tell".






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                                      As an author, if you don't let your reader feel a character's feelings when it would be appropriate, or shield or "mute" the feelings from the reader, you are somewhat betraying your character, your story, and letting down your reader.



                                      It could be that to you, the omniscient author, they are "incorrect" to you or you "know" they are "wrong", or because you don't like those feelings or you don't want to seem like you hold those feelings yourself. But if you are portraying a character, then within that story, how they feel is how they feel. They could be mistaken about something, over reacting, numbed, or have horrible beliefs and feelings (racist/sexist etc). But if that is how they feel, that is how they feel.



                                      That's not a rigid rule, authors often break any rule you can name. But generally it seems to be a good way to think about it, unless you deliberately decide not to.



                                      So if John thinks someone did a bad thing and is angry, but we know he's wrong, or Robert is a sexist racist narrow minded abuser who thinks he knows best, or Claire has irrational emotional reactions to aliens and thinks they are slimy, the best starting point is to let the reader feel that and share it, not to half-hide it from them because it's "not nice". The reader will feel that, and it will make the character feel a bit untrue, because how you describe the character no longer matches what you let them feel and share of the character.



                                      How to handle it?



                                      There are many questions about "what if my character is a racist/sexist", and the same kind of answer will apply to your character as well. You can show the reader what is happening and why, which may help.




                                      John looked at the aliens, unable to hold back a small shudder inside. Horrible, horrible, and slimy! The memory of his father came to his mind, as it always did, the images he had never seen, but imagined - his father torn and twisted, the gloating slimy monstrous creatures kicking his bloody corpse, and laughing at his pain. One day they will pay! he promised himself silently. One day...




                                      This doesn't just describe John's view (like your 1st idea) or add emotional distance from a deep emotion (like your 2nd idea). It actually puts the reader in John's mind -"Show, don't tell".






                                      share|improve this answer















                                      As an author, if you don't let your reader feel a character's feelings when it would be appropriate, or shield or "mute" the feelings from the reader, you are somewhat betraying your character, your story, and letting down your reader.



                                      It could be that to you, the omniscient author, they are "incorrect" to you or you "know" they are "wrong", or because you don't like those feelings or you don't want to seem like you hold those feelings yourself. But if you are portraying a character, then within that story, how they feel is how they feel. They could be mistaken about something, over reacting, numbed, or have horrible beliefs and feelings (racist/sexist etc). But if that is how they feel, that is how they feel.



                                      That's not a rigid rule, authors often break any rule you can name. But generally it seems to be a good way to think about it, unless you deliberately decide not to.



                                      So if John thinks someone did a bad thing and is angry, but we know he's wrong, or Robert is a sexist racist narrow minded abuser who thinks he knows best, or Claire has irrational emotional reactions to aliens and thinks they are slimy, the best starting point is to let the reader feel that and share it, not to half-hide it from them because it's "not nice". The reader will feel that, and it will make the character feel a bit untrue, because how you describe the character no longer matches what you let them feel and share of the character.



                                      How to handle it?



                                      There are many questions about "what if my character is a racist/sexist", and the same kind of answer will apply to your character as well. You can show the reader what is happening and why, which may help.




                                      John looked at the aliens, unable to hold back a small shudder inside. Horrible, horrible, and slimy! The memory of his father came to his mind, as it always did, the images he had never seen, but imagined - his father torn and twisted, the gloating slimy monstrous creatures kicking his bloody corpse, and laughing at his pain. One day they will pay! he promised himself silently. One day...




                                      This doesn't just describe John's view (like your 1st idea) or add emotional distance from a deep emotion (like your 2nd idea). It actually puts the reader in John's mind -"Show, don't tell".







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