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Do I have to take mana from my deck or hand when tapping a dual land? [duplicate]


What is the difference between lands and mana?How do dual lands and their mana work?What happens when you play Cloudshift on Borderland Ranger?When a land is granted a basic land type, what effects does that have?Underworld Connections: Tapping the Land for mana and ability?How does Charmed Pendant interact with Reaper King?Why would I want to use the activated ability of “Scalding Tarn”?How much mana does Radiant Fountain provide when tapped?How does exiling cards for Delve work?Does Unbridled Growth provide two mana or one?Sunbird's invocation implied rulesUnderrealm Lich and Divination













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    Also: Compare Stone Quarry with Arid Mesa to see how the other effect is worded.

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I have a land card, for example Stone Quarry which reads "T: Add R or W." Do I take the mana from my library or my hand?










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    Also: Compare Stone Quarry with Arid Mesa to see how the other effect is worded.

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    Related: How do dual lands and their mana work?

    – doppelgreener
    Mar 19 at 23:28






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    Also: Compare Stone Quarry with Arid Mesa to see how the other effect is worded.

    – Zulan
    Mar 20 at 8:28






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    @Zulan found Terrain Generator as an example of "from your hand"

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    Related: How do dual lands and their mana work?

    – doppelgreener
    Mar 19 at 23:28






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    Also: Compare Stone Quarry with Arid Mesa to see how the other effect is worded.

    – Zulan
    Mar 20 at 8:28






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Related: How do dual lands and their mana work?

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Also: Compare Stone Quarry with Arid Mesa to see how the other effect is worded.

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Also: Compare Stone Quarry with Arid Mesa to see how the other effect is worded.

– Zulan
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@Zulan found Terrain Generator as an example of "from your hand"

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You are confusing Lands with Mana, a common beginners' mistake.



Mana is a resource that you use to cast spells; it is not represented by cards; you can not physically see it. When you tap a land, such as a Mountain, you add a red mana to your mana pool, which means you now have 1 red mana to spend.



When you tap a Stone Quarry, you choose to either add a red mana to your mana pool, or to add a white mana to your mana pool. Either way you end up with 1 mana in your mana pool. You do not get any land cards from your library or your hand.



Note that tapping a Stone Quarry is very similar to tapping a Mountain. When you tap a Mountain, you are activating an ability that says ""T:Add R." This ability is just not printed on the card for basic lands; it is instead within the rulebook for all basic lands.



An effect that has you put a land card from your hand or library onto the battlefield would specifically say so:



Arid Mesa's ability says:




Search your library for a Mountain or Plains card, put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle your library.




and Terrain Generator's ability says




You may put a basic land card from your hand onto the battlefield tapped.




Note that Arid Mesa can't even produce mana, even though it is a land. Lands commonly produce mana, but not all of them do.






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    Good answer, but could use Arid Mesa and Terrain Generator as examples of wording for playing lands from library or hand.

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    Just to avoid confusion about number of land drops, you might want to change: "An effect that has you get (play) a land card from your hand or library would specifically say so:" to: "An effect that has you put a land card from your hand or library onto the battlefield would specifically say so:"

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Take a look at the old mountains, they had written on them "T: Add R to your mana pool" from 6th edition on they stopped printing that on the card itself, but the rules still include that all lands with the type Mountain tap for R, that's all the land does is add red mana when tapped. Lands produce mana, they aren't actually mana themselves. This is covered in the Comprehensive Rules(emphasis mine):




305.6 The basic land types are Plains, Island, Swamp, Mountain, and Forest. If an object uses the words "basic land type," it's referring to one of these subtypes. A land with a basic land type has the intrinsic ability "T: Add [mana symbol]," even if the text box doesn't actually contain that text or the object has no text box. For Plains, [mana symbol] is W; for Islands, U; for Swamps, B; for Mountains, R; and for Forests, G. See rule 107.4a. See also rule 605, "Mana Abilities."




That's also why the ability to add mana is in brackets on the more recent printings of typed duals like Sacred Foundry because being a mountain and a plains means it can tap for red or for white, it doesn't need to be explicit on the card, anything in brackets is just there as a reminder.






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    @JollyJoker Yes, the textboxes of the expedition shock lands didn't even have reminder text, only "As ~ enters the battlefield, you may pay 2 life. If you don't, ~ enters the battlefield tapped." Take a look at Temple Garden

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You are confusing Lands with Mana, a common beginners' mistake.



Mana is a resource that you use to cast spells; it is not represented by cards; you can not physically see it. When you tap a land, such as a Mountain, you add a red mana to your mana pool, which means you now have 1 red mana to spend.



When you tap a Stone Quarry, you choose to either add a red mana to your mana pool, or to add a white mana to your mana pool. Either way you end up with 1 mana in your mana pool. You do not get any land cards from your library or your hand.



Note that tapping a Stone Quarry is very similar to tapping a Mountain. When you tap a Mountain, you are activating an ability that says ""T:Add R." This ability is just not printed on the card for basic lands; it is instead within the rulebook for all basic lands.



An effect that has you put a land card from your hand or library onto the battlefield would specifically say so:



Arid Mesa's ability says:




Search your library for a Mountain or Plains card, put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle your library.




and Terrain Generator's ability says




You may put a basic land card from your hand onto the battlefield tapped.




Note that Arid Mesa can't even produce mana, even though it is a land. Lands commonly produce mana, but not all of them do.






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    Good answer, but could use Arid Mesa and Terrain Generator as examples of wording for playing lands from library or hand.

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    Just to avoid confusion about number of land drops, you might want to change: "An effect that has you get (play) a land card from your hand or library would specifically say so:" to: "An effect that has you put a land card from your hand or library onto the battlefield would specifically say so:"

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You are confusing Lands with Mana, a common beginners' mistake.



Mana is a resource that you use to cast spells; it is not represented by cards; you can not physically see it. When you tap a land, such as a Mountain, you add a red mana to your mana pool, which means you now have 1 red mana to spend.



When you tap a Stone Quarry, you choose to either add a red mana to your mana pool, or to add a white mana to your mana pool. Either way you end up with 1 mana in your mana pool. You do not get any land cards from your library or your hand.



Note that tapping a Stone Quarry is very similar to tapping a Mountain. When you tap a Mountain, you are activating an ability that says ""T:Add R." This ability is just not printed on the card for basic lands; it is instead within the rulebook for all basic lands.



An effect that has you put a land card from your hand or library onto the battlefield would specifically say so:



Arid Mesa's ability says:




Search your library for a Mountain or Plains card, put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle your library.




and Terrain Generator's ability says




You may put a basic land card from your hand onto the battlefield tapped.




Note that Arid Mesa can't even produce mana, even though it is a land. Lands commonly produce mana, but not all of them do.






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    Good answer, but could use Arid Mesa and Terrain Generator as examples of wording for playing lands from library or hand.

    – JollyJoker
    Mar 20 at 9:30






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    Just to avoid confusion about number of land drops, you might want to change: "An effect that has you get (play) a land card from your hand or library would specifically say so:" to: "An effect that has you put a land card from your hand or library onto the battlefield would specifically say so:"

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You are confusing Lands with Mana, a common beginners' mistake.



Mana is a resource that you use to cast spells; it is not represented by cards; you can not physically see it. When you tap a land, such as a Mountain, you add a red mana to your mana pool, which means you now have 1 red mana to spend.



When you tap a Stone Quarry, you choose to either add a red mana to your mana pool, or to add a white mana to your mana pool. Either way you end up with 1 mana in your mana pool. You do not get any land cards from your library or your hand.



Note that tapping a Stone Quarry is very similar to tapping a Mountain. When you tap a Mountain, you are activating an ability that says ""T:Add R." This ability is just not printed on the card for basic lands; it is instead within the rulebook for all basic lands.



An effect that has you put a land card from your hand or library onto the battlefield would specifically say so:



Arid Mesa's ability says:




Search your library for a Mountain or Plains card, put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle your library.




and Terrain Generator's ability says




You may put a basic land card from your hand onto the battlefield tapped.




Note that Arid Mesa can't even produce mana, even though it is a land. Lands commonly produce mana, but not all of them do.






share|improve this answer















You are confusing Lands with Mana, a common beginners' mistake.



Mana is a resource that you use to cast spells; it is not represented by cards; you can not physically see it. When you tap a land, such as a Mountain, you add a red mana to your mana pool, which means you now have 1 red mana to spend.



When you tap a Stone Quarry, you choose to either add a red mana to your mana pool, or to add a white mana to your mana pool. Either way you end up with 1 mana in your mana pool. You do not get any land cards from your library or your hand.



Note that tapping a Stone Quarry is very similar to tapping a Mountain. When you tap a Mountain, you are activating an ability that says ""T:Add R." This ability is just not printed on the card for basic lands; it is instead within the rulebook for all basic lands.



An effect that has you put a land card from your hand or library onto the battlefield would specifically say so:



Arid Mesa's ability says:




Search your library for a Mountain or Plains card, put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle your library.




and Terrain Generator's ability says




You may put a basic land card from your hand onto the battlefield tapped.




Note that Arid Mesa can't even produce mana, even though it is a land. Lands commonly produce mana, but not all of them do.







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    Good answer, but could use Arid Mesa and Terrain Generator as examples of wording for playing lands from library or hand.

    – JollyJoker
    Mar 20 at 9:30






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    Just to avoid confusion about number of land drops, you might want to change: "An effect that has you get (play) a land card from your hand or library would specifically say so:" to: "An effect that has you put a land card from your hand or library onto the battlefield would specifically say so:"

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    Good answer, but could use Arid Mesa and Terrain Generator as examples of wording for playing lands from library or hand.

    – JollyJoker
    Mar 20 at 9:30






  • 3





    Just to avoid confusion about number of land drops, you might want to change: "An effect that has you get (play) a land card from your hand or library would specifically say so:" to: "An effect that has you put a land card from your hand or library onto the battlefield would specifically say so:"

    – Malco
    Mar 20 at 14:03







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Good answer, but could use Arid Mesa and Terrain Generator as examples of wording for playing lands from library or hand.

– JollyJoker
Mar 20 at 9:30





Good answer, but could use Arid Mesa and Terrain Generator as examples of wording for playing lands from library or hand.

– JollyJoker
Mar 20 at 9:30




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Just to avoid confusion about number of land drops, you might want to change: "An effect that has you get (play) a land card from your hand or library would specifically say so:" to: "An effect that has you put a land card from your hand or library onto the battlefield would specifically say so:"

– Malco
Mar 20 at 14:03





Just to avoid confusion about number of land drops, you might want to change: "An effect that has you get (play) a land card from your hand or library would specifically say so:" to: "An effect that has you put a land card from your hand or library onto the battlefield would specifically say so:"

– Malco
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Take a look at the old mountains, they had written on them "T: Add R to your mana pool" from 6th edition on they stopped printing that on the card itself, but the rules still include that all lands with the type Mountain tap for R, that's all the land does is add red mana when tapped. Lands produce mana, they aren't actually mana themselves. This is covered in the Comprehensive Rules(emphasis mine):




305.6 The basic land types are Plains, Island, Swamp, Mountain, and Forest. If an object uses the words "basic land type," it's referring to one of these subtypes. A land with a basic land type has the intrinsic ability "T: Add [mana symbol]," even if the text box doesn't actually contain that text or the object has no text box. For Plains, [mana symbol] is W; for Islands, U; for Swamps, B; for Mountains, R; and for Forests, G. See rule 107.4a. See also rule 605, "Mana Abilities."




That's also why the ability to add mana is in brackets on the more recent printings of typed duals like Sacred Foundry because being a mountain and a plains means it can tap for red or for white, it doesn't need to be explicit on the card, anything in brackets is just there as a reminder.






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  • I didn't realize this held true for non-basic lands with basic land types. Have they ever left out the explicit text for nonbasic lands that still have a basic land type?

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    @JollyJoker Yes, the textboxes of the expedition shock lands didn't even have reminder text, only "As ~ enters the battlefield, you may pay 2 life. If you don't, ~ enters the battlefield tapped." Take a look at Temple Garden

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    @JollyJoker It's also why Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth works, because adding the type swamp to a nonbasic land makes it able to tap for black.

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  • Good point on Urborg. I just haven't noticed those shock lands

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Take a look at the old mountains, they had written on them "T: Add R to your mana pool" from 6th edition on they stopped printing that on the card itself, but the rules still include that all lands with the type Mountain tap for R, that's all the land does is add red mana when tapped. Lands produce mana, they aren't actually mana themselves. This is covered in the Comprehensive Rules(emphasis mine):




305.6 The basic land types are Plains, Island, Swamp, Mountain, and Forest. If an object uses the words "basic land type," it's referring to one of these subtypes. A land with a basic land type has the intrinsic ability "T: Add [mana symbol]," even if the text box doesn't actually contain that text or the object has no text box. For Plains, [mana symbol] is W; for Islands, U; for Swamps, B; for Mountains, R; and for Forests, G. See rule 107.4a. See also rule 605, "Mana Abilities."




That's also why the ability to add mana is in brackets on the more recent printings of typed duals like Sacred Foundry because being a mountain and a plains means it can tap for red or for white, it doesn't need to be explicit on the card, anything in brackets is just there as a reminder.






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  • I didn't realize this held true for non-basic lands with basic land types. Have they ever left out the explicit text for nonbasic lands that still have a basic land type?

    – JollyJoker
    Mar 20 at 14:31






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    @JollyJoker Yes, the textboxes of the expedition shock lands didn't even have reminder text, only "As ~ enters the battlefield, you may pay 2 life. If you don't, ~ enters the battlefield tapped." Take a look at Temple Garden

    – Andrew
    Mar 20 at 14:39







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    @JollyJoker It's also why Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth works, because adding the type swamp to a nonbasic land makes it able to tap for black.

    – Andrew
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  • Good point on Urborg. I just haven't noticed those shock lands

    – JollyJoker
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Take a look at the old mountains, they had written on them "T: Add R to your mana pool" from 6th edition on they stopped printing that on the card itself, but the rules still include that all lands with the type Mountain tap for R, that's all the land does is add red mana when tapped. Lands produce mana, they aren't actually mana themselves. This is covered in the Comprehensive Rules(emphasis mine):




305.6 The basic land types are Plains, Island, Swamp, Mountain, and Forest. If an object uses the words "basic land type," it's referring to one of these subtypes. A land with a basic land type has the intrinsic ability "T: Add [mana symbol]," even if the text box doesn't actually contain that text or the object has no text box. For Plains, [mana symbol] is W; for Islands, U; for Swamps, B; for Mountains, R; and for Forests, G. See rule 107.4a. See also rule 605, "Mana Abilities."




That's also why the ability to add mana is in brackets on the more recent printings of typed duals like Sacred Foundry because being a mountain and a plains means it can tap for red or for white, it doesn't need to be explicit on the card, anything in brackets is just there as a reminder.






share|improve this answer















enter image description here



Take a look at the old mountains, they had written on them "T: Add R to your mana pool" from 6th edition on they stopped printing that on the card itself, but the rules still include that all lands with the type Mountain tap for R, that's all the land does is add red mana when tapped. Lands produce mana, they aren't actually mana themselves. This is covered in the Comprehensive Rules(emphasis mine):




305.6 The basic land types are Plains, Island, Swamp, Mountain, and Forest. If an object uses the words "basic land type," it's referring to one of these subtypes. A land with a basic land type has the intrinsic ability "T: Add [mana symbol]," even if the text box doesn't actually contain that text or the object has no text box. For Plains, [mana symbol] is W; for Islands, U; for Swamps, B; for Mountains, R; and for Forests, G. See rule 107.4a. See also rule 605, "Mana Abilities."




That's also why the ability to add mana is in brackets on the more recent printings of typed duals like Sacred Foundry because being a mountain and a plains means it can tap for red or for white, it doesn't need to be explicit on the card, anything in brackets is just there as a reminder.







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  • I didn't realize this held true for non-basic lands with basic land types. Have they ever left out the explicit text for nonbasic lands that still have a basic land type?

    – JollyJoker
    Mar 20 at 14:31






  • 5





    @JollyJoker Yes, the textboxes of the expedition shock lands didn't even have reminder text, only "As ~ enters the battlefield, you may pay 2 life. If you don't, ~ enters the battlefield tapped." Take a look at Temple Garden

    – Andrew
    Mar 20 at 14:39







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    @JollyJoker It's also why Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth works, because adding the type swamp to a nonbasic land makes it able to tap for black.

    – Andrew
    Mar 20 at 14:43











  • Good point on Urborg. I just haven't noticed those shock lands

    – JollyJoker
    Mar 20 at 14:55

















  • I didn't realize this held true for non-basic lands with basic land types. Have they ever left out the explicit text for nonbasic lands that still have a basic land type?

    – JollyJoker
    Mar 20 at 14:31






  • 5





    @JollyJoker Yes, the textboxes of the expedition shock lands didn't even have reminder text, only "As ~ enters the battlefield, you may pay 2 life. If you don't, ~ enters the battlefield tapped." Take a look at Temple Garden

    – Andrew
    Mar 20 at 14:39







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    @JollyJoker It's also why Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth works, because adding the type swamp to a nonbasic land makes it able to tap for black.

    – Andrew
    Mar 20 at 14:43











  • Good point on Urborg. I just haven't noticed those shock lands

    – JollyJoker
    Mar 20 at 14:55
















I didn't realize this held true for non-basic lands with basic land types. Have they ever left out the explicit text for nonbasic lands that still have a basic land type?

– JollyJoker
Mar 20 at 14:31





I didn't realize this held true for non-basic lands with basic land types. Have they ever left out the explicit text for nonbasic lands that still have a basic land type?

– JollyJoker
Mar 20 at 14:31




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@JollyJoker Yes, the textboxes of the expedition shock lands didn't even have reminder text, only "As ~ enters the battlefield, you may pay 2 life. If you don't, ~ enters the battlefield tapped." Take a look at Temple Garden

– Andrew
Mar 20 at 14:39






@JollyJoker Yes, the textboxes of the expedition shock lands didn't even have reminder text, only "As ~ enters the battlefield, you may pay 2 life. If you don't, ~ enters the battlefield tapped." Take a look at Temple Garden

– Andrew
Mar 20 at 14:39





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@JollyJoker It's also why Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth works, because adding the type swamp to a nonbasic land makes it able to tap for black.

– Andrew
Mar 20 at 14:43





@JollyJoker It's also why Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth works, because adding the type swamp to a nonbasic land makes it able to tap for black.

– Andrew
Mar 20 at 14:43













Good point on Urborg. I just haven't noticed those shock lands

– JollyJoker
Mar 20 at 14:55





Good point on Urborg. I just haven't noticed those shock lands

– JollyJoker
Mar 20 at 14:55



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